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To: jmacusa

Patton had difficulty with the fortifications of Driant in WWII. I have been there, and even with nukes, it would be hard to dig motivated defenders out of that hole.

In the Franco Prussian war the French muzzle loaders cannon were matched against Krupp 6 pounders breech loaders.

In the Franco Prussian war the Germans managed a local battle of encirclement at Sedan. In WWI they went around, but were to send an army around Paris. In response to the BEF, the far right army pinched inside Paris, thus losing the ability to encircle, and indeed having to strip off assault forces to protect their flank. The diminished assault forces of the far right army led to a gap between the two right most armies, which was screened over with cavalry. (a lot of cavalry, but still unable to hold against a coordinated attack.) The professional BEF with Lewis machine guns punched in the cavalry and the far right German army fell back. It was not the end, or even the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning.


69 posted on 09/30/2012 12:23:15 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
But in the overall battles, the defenders of these forts were either cut off, surrounded, pounded to dust or just by passed.
71 posted on 09/30/2012 12:58:40 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: donmeaker
One need only to look to the Maginot Line, The Atlantic Wall and The Siegfried Line and see the futility of fixed fortifications.
72 posted on 09/30/2012 1:00:50 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: donmeaker
The professional BEF with Lewis machine guns punched in the cavalry and the far right German army fell back. It was not the end, or even the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning.

Maxims and Enfields, the Lewis came later. Plus they entrenched.

90 posted on 09/30/2012 1:48:47 PM PDT by Little Bill
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