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To: jmacusa
I was responding to Bubbas claim about the North invading the South. Nice try a triangulating. Point was the South opened the ball. It was their first act of aggression in a war to maintain their slave economy.

One of us is being stupid. Pray tell how starting the war helped maintain their slave economy?

Secession was about arrogance as well.

What was arrogant about seceding? We did it from the British. Was that arrogant?

I’m well aware of Lincolns views.He freed the slaves none the less.

You missed the part about it being a cynical ploy to assist in the war effort? See Secretary of State Seward's comment further up the thread. Lincoln did not free any slaves where he had the power to do so, such as in Maryland.

Fulminate all you want and spin the history.

How is it spinning when I point out things about History which are factually correct? I think much of the history has already been spun, i'm just doing a little un-spinning.

The South started the war and lost.

And Lincoln left us with a Leviathan of Federal supremacy which is now working to restore slavery.

By the way, have you ever heard of the EMS dispatch? Of course it was the French that started that war, not Bismarck.

117 posted on 09/24/2012 9:44:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

We didn’t secede from the British. They made war on us, and we eventually fought back, and eventually we responded to the state of war with a Declaration of Independence.

By contrast, the slave power pretended to secession first, then complained about the crisis they created, as their justification, using secession as their justification to enslave all the poor white males US citizens by conscription (but exempted the wealthy slave owners from conscription).


120 posted on 09/24/2012 9:49:31 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
One of us is being stupid.

Well it isn't jmacusa. Who does that leave?

121 posted on 09/24/2012 9:50:27 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Federal supremacy was in the constitution from the beginning. That was why General Lee was called out to put down the insurrection in Pennsylvania, and later, his son was called out to put down insurrection in Virginia.


122 posted on 09/24/2012 9:51:55 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

0Hey Dude, get over it, will you? This isn’t 1861 anymore or haven’t you noticed? We ‘’secceded from the Brits’’ So what, would you like to return or would you have favored seeing the United States being Balkanized?


137 posted on 09/25/2012 4:00:06 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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