Posted on 09/17/2012 11:50:46 AM PDT by Renfield
There was a water line break near where I lived about 3 winters ago.
So I was out watching them work on it, apparently the water line was somehow laid in a gravel base and covered by the road. The road sloped, and the water wa gushing out from under the asphalt.
The guy working on it has a chain around his neck with some kind of jewelry piece setup on it, and he starts walking up the road swinging it.
About six feet up the road, he says “Here it is”, and kicks a mark in the snow.
They start with the jackhammer, he was dead on, took them about another 35 minutes to fix it.
My jaw dropped big time that day!
And to make you scratch your head even more, this was the city water crew who was doing the work!
That must make life pretty difficult for him.
Driving home, every time he crosses over a water line it would yank on his neck. He must have to avoid bridges that cross rivers, as the pull would probably break the chain.
Taking his dog for a walk must be awful as well, as every time he crosses a water line it would pull on his neck.
And heaven forbid he should actually get in a boat wearing the thing. It might actually pull him right down to the bottom of the boat.
Think about it. Have you every wondered why these devices are attracted to water sometimes, but not other times? If a Y-shaped stick really was pulled toward the ground when it hovered over underground water, wouldn't it be impossible to just carry a Y-shaped stick across your backyard without it jumping out of your hand?
And yet, that isn't what happens. People carry sticks and rods all over the place (all the time) and never report then jumping out of their hands, or wheelbarrow, or truck because they're carrying them over an underground water source.
Why does it work sometimes, and not others? Because it doesn't really work in the first place.
Just telling you what I saw.
Whatever happened there, you can decide.
Wait, you didn’t see it....
Not really. When I farmed and grew up on a farm; I could find underground water drainage tile lines this way.
Not sure why it worked but it did. I just would take 2 pieces of #9 wire (thicker wire) about 3 foot long. Bend one end so you had a handle. Walk with them loosely held in front of me. When I would get over an area with a tile line they would move towards each other; cross over.
I assume it's something with the magnetic field being slightly different in those areas.
Not “magical; but something scientific.
I just know it worked pretty well. Would have a can of orange spray paint, and I could mark the tile line pretty well after coming at the area from different angles.
Kind of like using a stud finder.
They have a lot better methods than my 2 pieces of wire is why!
When I did it; I could afford to be off a bit; they can't!
You mistake me for a credulous enthusiast. I am not. I’ve seen some strange things-not limited to dowsing, either-that I generally ascribe to either chicanery or the devil and his angels. I wouldn’t pursue any of it.
Connecting with your subconscious and getting it to reveal things your conscious mind misses can and does work.
If you search (on google or Amazon) dowsing, it is striking how much of the material has a new-age, spiritual aspect to it.
"Dowsing tools, tips, books, resources, classes. Large selection of quality pendulums and divining rods for the discriminating dowser and energy healer." -- divingmind.com
"Dowsers.com is dedicated to helping you to grow spiritually and heal through dowsing, the teachings of Walter Russell, and Celtic Sea Salt." -- dowsers.com
"This is the best site for products and information on Dowsing and Pyramid Power!! " - dowsing.com
The American Society of Dowsers (dowsers.org) is an virtual Pandora's box of new-age mumbo-jumbo. Just a quick sampling of items they sell on their website:
And, all this was in the 1st page of results of a google search of the word "dowsing."
Whatever dowsing actually is, it's obvious that there is a strong enough spiritual dimension to it that it leads people away from the truth (the Bible) and towards spiritual error.
I agree with the idea of many different spirits and [little g--gods] out there altering and influencing the world.
But, I have used metal coat hangers to locate the metal water lines on our property. Nothing magical about that.
Simply saying "it works" doesn't explain why it works. Nor does it disprove that it works "by magic" or via a supernatural force.
Moses used a rod and with our 'God' he unleashed water. That is not blasphemy nor did I infer that it was divining.
The context in which you used the quote (a thread on divining) certainly made it look like you were using it as an example of divining found in the Bible. If not, they why did you quote the line?
Place the line in context and it seems to have nothing to do with divination or dowsing.
"Now there was no water for the community, and the people gathered in opposition to Moses and Aaron. 3 They quarreled with Moses and said, “If only we had died when our brothers fell dead before the Lord! 4 Why did you bring the Lord’s community into this wilderness, that we and our livestock should die here? 5 Why did you bring us up out of Egypt to this terrible place? It has no grain or figs, grapevines or pomegranates. And there is no water to drink!”
6 Moses and Aaron went from the assembly to the entrance to the tent of meeting and fell facedown, and the glory of the Lord appeared to them. 7 The Lord said to Moses, 8 “Take the staff, and you and your brother Aaron gather the assembly together. Speak to that rock before their eyes and it will pour out its water. You will bring water out of the rock for the community so they and their livestock can drink.”
9 So Moses took the staff from the Lord’s presence, just as he commanded him. 10 He and Aaron gathered the assembly together in front of the rock and Moses said to them, “Listen, you rebels, must we bring you water out of this rock?” 11 Then Moses raised his arm and struck the rock twice with his staff. Water gushed out, and the community and their livestock drank.
12 But the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not trust in me enough to honor me as holy in the sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this community into the land I give them.”"
God did not command Moses to use his rod to locate water--there was no divining (searching for water) with a stick. God told Moses exactly where it was.
God also did not tell Moses to use his rod to bring forth the water. God told Moses to speak to the rock, and it would bring forth water. God, in fact, gets angry at Moses for using his rod to bring forth the water (by hitting the rock--notice again there is no dowsing with a stick going on to locate the water source).
And yes, taking scripture--God's word--out of context to imply it says something it doesn't (twisting scripture) is a form of blasphemy.
www.skepdic.com/dowsing.html
Anyone with real confidence in his abilities is free to prove his mettle in front of The Amazing Randi. Do it under conditions that prohibit cheating, and he'll give you a million dollars. No one has managed yet.
Randi is a dishonest person who has no intention of paying up, no matter what anyone shows him.
The only way you could know this to be true would be if someone had successfully demonstrated magical powers in front of of Randi under conditions that prohibited cheating, followed by Randi's refusal to pay up.
Do you know of such an occurance? If so, please document it.
Randi has structured the rules of his “challenge” in such a way that it would be functionally impossible to overcome it, and also functionally impossible to sue him if you did, and he reneged. No one in his right mind would sign the legal contract for such a challenge.
You can read about it here...
http://voices.yahoo.com/exposing-unfair-truth-james-randi-1000000-120038.html
OOps...wrong link..it’s this one...
http://dailygrail.com/features/the-myth-of-james-randis-million-dollar-challenge
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