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My brother the militant atheist (VANITY)
Sept. 16, 2012 | Thorliveshere

Posted on 09/16/2012 8:03:11 PM PDT by Thorliveshere

My brother and I have been going back and forth over the last few years, his atheism has really taken a sharp curve into aggravating territory. I got this message from him, and I'm trying to let my anger subside before I respond. I'm curious what you would say:
The only two things you should ever worry about getting married to each other are big government and big religion. While many are very vocally opposed to "redefining marriage" (even, though there are more than one definition of marriage if you bother to look in a dictionary) they don't realize that, in the process, they are redefining the word "liberty". Anyone who believes that big government is too intrusive on their personal lives, but also believes that using religion to dictate the liberty of others isn't intrusive, needs to look in a mirror... for there they will most definitely find the definition of "hypocrite".


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: atheism; gay; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; marriage; misotheism; religion
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1 posted on 09/16/2012 8:03:17 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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Come back asking him if he agrees with Polygamy and marriage to animals. If he says no, ask him why he would deny those who were in love with two people, or a goat, the chance to be truly happy.

Always works for me when shutting up “marriage equality” fanatics.

Marriage is NOT a right.


2 posted on 09/16/2012 8:06:27 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Why is government involved in a Holy Sacrament to begin with?

/johnny

3 posted on 09/16/2012 8:06:47 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Thorliveshere

Be sure to tell him you love him every chance you get.


4 posted on 09/16/2012 8:07:55 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Ask him what he thinks of Palestine.....and “Big Islam”. Have him ‘splain that.

The queers and atheists seem to just LOVE the “Pallies”.

Ask him what he thinks of SHARIA.


5 posted on 09/16/2012 8:08:02 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Thorliveshere

If your brother is an atheist, why does the religious definition bother him so?

What problem does he have with civil unions if they afford rights?

Seems he just wants to punish people who have the faith he lacks.
And that seems a destructive angle to take in the argument—for what reason? To make himself feel better about being without faith.


6 posted on 09/16/2012 8:08:48 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Thorliveshere
Anyone who believes that big government is too intrusive on their personal lives, but also believes that using religion to dictate the liberty of others isn't intrusive, needs to look in a mirror... for there they will most definitely find the definition of "hypocrite".

Just reword his last line back to him...

Anyone who believes that big government is too intrusive on their personal lives, but also believes that it should be used to redefine an institution older than civilization, needs to look in the mirror... for there they will most definitely find the definition of "cognitive dissonance".

7 posted on 09/16/2012 8:12:31 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Dear Bro,

The things you send me are in opposition to God’s Word.

Here is God’s word on the subject:

**Genesis account**

**Jesus’s comments on marriage**

You should not reject God’s word. There is still hope for you. Repent.

Love, Me


Use the above as a framework for every response to every screed.

Either he will repent; or, he’ll hate hearing the Bible and leave you alone.

God’s word is the powerful thing and gets to the heart of the matter. And that is what is wrong; his heart.


8 posted on 09/16/2012 8:14:22 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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Marriage is a religious institution.

The state recognizes it for the purposes of property transfer.

They have no right redefining someone's religious beliefs.

9 posted on 09/16/2012 8:14:24 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Riding the Long-Wave Economic Contraction, Baby!)
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To: Thorliveshere
Tell him to soak up all the liberalism he can, because once his flesh returns to the dirt it came from, he will never get to be a liberal again.
10 posted on 09/16/2012 8:17:33 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Thorliveshere
The only two things you should ever worry about getting married to each other are big government and big religion.

He is correct and it has happened in the form of Democrats and The Church of Global Warming.

11 posted on 09/16/2012 8:19:36 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Thorliveshere

Takes a lot of faith to be an atheist. Likely he has issues with his earthly father. Undermining the family is central to the destruction of the US.


12 posted on 09/16/2012 8:22:40 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Thorliveshere
there are more than one definition of marriage

Hit the fool on his illiteracy and grammar and ignore everything else, that'll learn 'im!

13 posted on 09/16/2012 8:22:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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“Government married to religion = Shariah today. And they are killing people today to spread their religion. Why do you consider me a threat? I want government out of both our lives.”

“Socialist and communist nations have generally imploded horrifically or descended into Hell on Earth, from socialist Zimbabwe to Communist North Korea to Argentina’s economic implosion to the Weimar republic. None of those places had Christianity at the helm, but many of them were atheist. And none of us, of any religion, wants to live through a social and economic collapse like that today.”

Send him a card this Christmas to demonstrate your tolerance. I think it started with Kinky Friedman, and it says, “May the god of your choice bless you in this holiday season.”


14 posted on 09/16/2012 8:24:42 PM PDT by tbw2
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While many are very vocally opposed to "redefining marriage...

Ha! It's not "many", it's a majority. Gay marriage has gone down to defeat in every state that has voted on it.

Your brother doesn't believe in democracy. Consequently, he doesn't believe in true liberty but rather anarchy.

15 posted on 09/16/2012 8:25:36 PM PDT by ILS21R (The time is nigh.)
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To: Persevero

The athiests sure spend a huge amount of time and energy protesting against a God they claim is not real!


16 posted on 09/16/2012 8:26:15 PM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zero. Someone else did that.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Atheists use the term “hypocrite” exactly as liberals use the term “racist.”

Any association they can imagine between their opponent’s behavior and “magic word,” no matter how contrived, is an instant “checkmate” as far as they are concerned. At that point, they no longer have to pay any attention to what the opposition asserts.

At bottom, it is the tool they use to give themselves permission to reject opposing viewpoints without giving the benefit of a fair hearing.


17 posted on 09/16/2012 8:26:32 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Thorliveshere
As much as I want to rip into him, as much as he galls me and goads me, as much as I want to burn this bridge right now (really can't, he's my brother after all), I feel I must concede to the wisdom of this post:

Be sure to tell him you love him every chance you get.

But I will pray on it tonight and see what answers the Lord gives me (though, I already think he did).
18 posted on 09/16/2012 8:29:00 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: pgyanke

Touché!


19 posted on 09/16/2012 8:29:33 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Why is government involved in a Holy Sacrament to begin with? “

When you mention “government” don’t think of Washington, DC and the festering morass that the Federal Government has become. Instead think of government at its earliest beginnings and smallest unit. Think of the village or the extended family.

To answer your question:

To keep Big Caveman from knocking you over the head because he wants your woman.

To cut down on the number of unsupported children running around. (original intent - this function of government abdicated several decades ago)

To publicly establish commitment between man & wife.

I read a SciFI novel back in the 60’s called “Earth Abides” (George R. Stewart - 1949) one of the early “after the Apocalypse” novels. The protagonist slowly accumulates a band of survivors and begins to reestablish a society. He has to deal with this issue of roving, uncommitted males looking to have their pleasure and move on, leaving the products thereof to be raised & supported by others.

The need for the larger community to establish, support & defend the institution of marriage was stated in the beginning by God. Man, in his infinite wisdom (/ sarc), continually tried to abandon “marriage”, only to find that God had a number of really good reasons for establishing it.

Strong evidence, multiple evidences support the idea that He REALLY does know what He is doing.


20 posted on 09/16/2012 8:30:51 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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