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To: daniel1212

“The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. “ (Psalms 119:130)

Yes, often..but the spoken word is more powerful than the written but you are stuck on the bible as your sort of base...rather than the holy spirit. If you would do the latter, you would be a speaker of that word, helping to awaken people and not just using other bright souls past written word to bear on life.


520 posted on 09/28/2012 7:08:26 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: fabian; Elsie; Tuanedge; Godzilla; mitch5501; CynicalBear; metmom; boatbums; smvoice

>the spoken word is more powerful than the written but you are stuck on the bible as your sort of base...rather than the holy spirit.<

In-credible! The more rope you are given the more your perverse doctrine is exposed. Do you realize what you are saying? That what you subjectively understand thru your esoteric meditation is supreme, versus the written words of Scripture being the base, and which premise is one that anyone can use to assert truth.

Without a tangible transcendent authority then anyone can claim to teach truth, and making oneself or church supreme over Scripture is a sure mark of cults. And making what you subjectively think the Holy Spirit says to be supreme, and which rejects exegetical analysis of words and texts of Scripture, versus the written words of Scripture being the base, is just the opposite of what the Holy Spirit says in Scripture. For it is abundantly substantiated that the written word was the supreme transcendent authority for obedience and examining truth claims, once it was given, (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Bible/2Tim_3.html#Partial) while men like Moses had mighty signs and wonders and holiness that affirmed that he was the chosen instrument of God to pen Scripture.

For indeed God commanded Moses to write His words, (ex. 34:27) and he did so until he “made an end of writing the words [plural] of this law in a book, until they were finished, “ (Deuteronomy 31:24) Thus when dealing with those who also spoke by “familial spirits, God commanded, “Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples,” (Isaiah 8:16) and, “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20)

And while some of Scripture was first oral, additions to it were established upon Scriptural substantiation, and not on the basis of Masters type of mind-numbing “meditation.” Thus the Lord Jesus substantiated His claims and mission work by the words of Scripture (Mt. 22; Lk. 24:25-27) and called men to “search the Scriptures,” (Jn. 5:39) which appeal to its words the early church very much engaged in, and the NT contains about 250 quotes from the old, and in a way which often reveals exegetical understanding of the very words.

And no one would assert that you can use the pages of Scripture in the toilet, or that ones understanding is supreme and you can throw the Bible away. Or contrast speaking by the holy spirit with making the Bible ones base for truth, which again is a cultic license to deception.


539 posted on 09/28/2012 8:35:01 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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