Better not leave out ‘pets’ ... just sayin’
I agree 100%!!!
Because I am now single I pay $4000 dollars a year more in federal income taxes. Get the damn government out of the marriage business/social engineering!!!
So it’s really all about money and not getting government approval for sodomy with the ‘one you love’?
A ‘family’ the cornerstone of any society from the most primitive to the most modern. It stands to reason that the government will be concerned about its structure if for no other reason than to insure domestic tranquility.
I’m 58 and my son is 22. We both came to this conclusion independently of each other — local government offers civil unions, religious organizations offer marriages. DONE!
What’s interesting about the gay marriage issue is that many gays that pushed for it never get married after they are able to. I live in NY. Thanks to Cuomo, gays can get married. At work not a single gay person that posted signs on the subject, flew the equal rights flag or wrote letters to the editor ever got married. They aren’t even planning to get married. We ask why and we get some crap answer like “we don’t need a paper to tell us we are married...”
Homosexuals want marriage as a sign of society’s approval for their behavior. In most places, they can already get all the rest - but they want “marriage” so they can be “normal”.
Activists know that they could have civil unions pretty easily, what they want is the word “marriage”, so as to destroy it.
You want to destroy “marriage” as well, making government civil unions (which would merely replace marriage) the norm, and allowing “marriage” to fade into obscurity as it becomes a little religious ceremony for some, in their individual churches, something for personal consumption only, but not applicable to society at large.
You legalize homosexual marriage and polygamy either way in your proposal.
Libertarians are leftists who are attacking our culture and society, and morality using a different name.
The state should be the authority on marriage, and it’s up to the people of that state to define it.
Those that should butt out are the courts. It is not their domain and any court that acts otherwise should be impeached.
I agree.
That makes way too much sense for the left to go along. It also does little to destroy the family, which is the real goal, as families are the backbone of society.
FWIW, marriage is primarily a matter of the Church, or the synagogue. But in the West, government has had the job of recording and confirming it, for legal purposes, and because proper marriages are the foundation of a sound society. As long as you have a Christian nation, that works fine.
Now, we are in something of a dilemma. Freedom of religion used to mean freedom to follow a sensible religion. But now it might be Islam, or pot smoking, or Satanism, or Wiccans, or polygamist sects, or who knows what. Where do you draw the line? People used to pretty much agree. But now there is no agreement. We won’t have a healthy marriage situation unless and until our country returns to traditional religious and moral values—not by force, but by consent and conversion freely consented to.
But although the primary authorities over marriage should be the churches, government has a role to play—if we can ever get the current mess straightened out. There is no way that you can have a free society without the widespread moral agreement that comes from religion, and we no longer seem to have that. Which is not to say that we could not have another Great Awakening, which is what is needed.
I agree. Unfortunatly, this is too simple. What was it that Clint Eastwood said...conservatives by the very nature of the word don’t go around beating drums like the liberals... I really managled this, but you get the picture.
What a bunch of liberal crap. The result of your fantasy will result in more out of wedlock children, the number source of poverty in America.
Gay marriage was banned in Oregon by a people's vote. The liberal legislature then pushed through civil unions, granting gays ALL the benefits of a real marriage. The gays in Oregon are still working on getting the gay marriage ban overturned. They want acceptance of their perversion.
As long as the marriage contract has implications on tax laws, inheritance laws, property rights, child support, etc, then government does have a place to make sure the contractual terms are clearly defined and consistent. The Constitution authorizes Congress to set the standards of 'weights and measures'. According to the Federalist papers, legal definitions are considered a measure that is within the government's jurisdiction to define. If legal definitions don't mean anything or are inconsistent, then contracts and laws aren't enforceable.
If you want the government out of the marriage business, simply having private contracts between individuals, then all the laws and recognized contracts that apply to marriage first must be addressed.
Government is interested in traditional marriage because, a natural outcome of man/woman marriage is the result of children, new citizens to replace the older citizens who are retiring or less able to do certain work (in the case of the military, work for national defense). This goes back many millenia- in ancient Roman empire days, the consul and Senate would regularly issue edicts for landed and non landed citizens to increase their number— have more children. This was especially true as the expansion of Rome required citizen soldiers. What has changed this somewhat is the advent of technology and the political annoyance of a group that insists that religions say their relationship is the same. It isn’t and can never be. Men and women are different—biologically and countless other ways.
The STATE, in this case, the feds, but also the states, have been involved in biology— and that is a major part of the problem. Carried to further extreme, since it seems homosexuals are demanding that churches/religions acknowledge they are the SAME as man/women in marriage, would it not then devolve that a condition of homosexual marriage would be the requirement that one of the party produce a child (from a sperm donor for L’s, and artificial womb for male homosexuals). Such is the “advancement” of the biotechnology that would enable this.
Against this backdrop and, furthering the homosexual agenda against the traditional family structure, you have planned parenthood pushing the abortion industry. Children are not to be wanted in this “overpopulated” world.
From a biblical point of view, and any number of other “biologically sound” points of view, the true marriage of a man and a woman provides stability- psychological, societal, and... biological. To suggest otherwise can be countered with vast historical precedent.
I have been saying that since I was old enough to know what it meant.
I had a legal, civil contract (marriage license) with my husband, and we were also ceremonially married-by a priest of our religion (Catholic). There is no reason one should not be binding without the other-they are two completely different things.
A civil, legal contract is just that-and a marriage is a religious matter between a clergyman who performs the ceremony and the two people who choose to bond before God. If the U.S. military had not required the civil license to make me “officially” his wife, my husband and I would have been quite happy to skip that and just go straight to our priest-we would have been just as married, as far as we were concerned.
Anyone can enter into a legal/civil contract, but the specifications of the marriage bond are determined by the religion of one’s choice-in Christian and Jewish doctrine, one man and one woman, not a village.
Let each state decide if they want to have it that way. Despite well-meaning “concern”, any time a government sticks their hands into personal, non-business relationships, it ends up badly, just like this same sex “marriage” nonsense...
The vast majority of gays don’t want to get married, they want to be with as many partners as possible....Marriage to them is all about “normalizing” their behavior.
I think it’s just about the creeping encroachment of liberal power. Watch what they attack, it’s the very things that we hold dear and binds us together as Americans.
It’s about tearing down America so the squirmies can take it over.
Everything from smoking, to the sanctity of life is on their agenda, and unless we stand firm, America will become Pottersville and continue its fall into 3rd worldism in a short time.