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To: Perdogg

Lifelong Browns fan here. Art did do many charitable and good things for Cleveland, but his legacy will forever be stained by the move to Baltimore in 1995. The Browns came back to Cleveland as an expansion team in 1999, but it has never been the same (at least for me).


3 posted on 09/06/2012 4:52:12 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: IndyTiger

It’s never been the same for me after Irsay moved the Colts and Baltimore had to go out and ‘steal’ another team. But, I have grown to love the Ravens over time. It’s like a second marriage I guess.....


5 posted on 09/06/2012 4:54:57 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: IndyTiger

When Art Modell fled Cleveland, wasn’t it in the middle of the night?.......Browns fans had the sympathy of those of us in Pittsburgh. It’s never been the same, the rivalry between the two teams and the two cities.


9 posted on 09/06/2012 5:13:07 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: IndyTiger
At least Cleveland got a football team in a relative short time after the Browns left Cleveland.
Baltimore and it's fans had to endure 12 long years without a football team, and being snubbed by the NFL twice by giving a expansion team to another city without giving any consideration to Baltimore.
Remember, it was the Baltimore Colts that put the NFL on the national map, and on the national map when it comes to TV viewing.
I am not saying this as if there is no sympathy for the fans of the old Cleveland Browns, but, look at it in the perspective of what happen to Baltimore and how also the NFL treated Baltimore and it's fans like a piece of dirt.

41 posted on 09/11/2012 6:25:37 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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