JJ on PBS "Jefferson Davis Democrats became Goldwater Republicans

Human Events ^ | John Gizzi  

[wardaddy]

I am talking about the voting populace of the white south if whicberh I am a member old enough to remember at 55 and the crop of GOP. pols since then who followed social conservatism from post LBJ. Dempsey to the GOP diluting the existing social moderates there who had voted for the social liberalism of the 60s to begin with

There is no question of that...the voting white south fled to the GOP and pushed it right.

And btw...John Stennis was a patriot..democrat or nit...lookvit up.

[Ohioan]

You, as usual, show a correct knowledge of political history. The swing of Southern Conservatives--and because of their swing, the gradual improvement in the Federal Judiciary, really started when Strom Thurmond switched parties in 1964 to support Barry Goldwater. It was Thurmond, also, who held Nixon & other Repupblican Presidents feet to the fire, thereafter, in trying to get more Conservatives on the Federal Bench.

Personally, through High School & College & Law School, I was a Conservative Democrat--my political identification with such men as Harry Byrd of Virginia--who was very well respected in Southern Ohio as a true statesman, by men in both political parties. While I began to work for Barry Goldwater's candidacy right after the 1960 election, I did not actually switch parties, myself until the 1964 campaign.

Without the Southern Conservative swing to the Republicans, neither Nixon nor Reagan could have been elected--nor for that matter would either Bush. That is political reality. It is truly a shame that at this late date, there is still such a terrible bias against Southern Conservatives.

Of course Jesse Jackson epitomizes what I have referred to as Creating Hate In America Today. Those who seek to deliberately undermine the rooted Southerners sense of heritage are no friends to any American future. It is the South where the largest percentage of the population still understand the multi-generational pursuit that is any nation, tribe, community or family.

Continue to keep the Faith!

Bill Flax

[a fool in paradise]

So was Jesse Jackson a Jefferson Davis Democrat who became an LBJ Democrat? How’d that happen?

[wardaddy]

Hilarious isn't it?

Don't these kids know every white person in America was a racist in 1955 by today's submissive white benchmark

And to deny that white democrat voters did not flock to the GOP from Nixon on to get away from Great Society excess is just willfull ignorance

Bet they don't know most GOP voted all that garbage and only Dixiecrats and GOP like Reagan...Buckley and Goldwater came out against that junk

Junk which laid the seeds for what they all whine about today...with good reason

Its a common thread here.ignorance framed by the ever present racial prism they simply cannot resist the lure of

[wardaddy]

Long time no see Bill great to see some sanity on the thread

I saw anti Southern bias here first day 12 years ago

Its the culture...brainwashed the kids

Just imagine how bad the left must be

[Ohioan]

The brainwashing has been accomplished by Leftists substituting their wish lists for how things "should be" for the reality of how things & people, actually were. We have been bombarded by a false "idealism," that reflects an implacable hatred of reality by people who suffer from the same malady as the Jacobins, who gave France the "Reign Of Terror," the Bolshevik Communists, who gave Russia over seventy years of pure hell; the Nazis who immersed Germany & most of Europe in a totally disastrous, self-destructive war, both on each other's armies & civilian populations; as Chairman Mao, who savaged the Chinese, with his "Cultural Revolution," etc..

The compulsion to try to force a uniformity on any population reflects a neurotic denial of the fact that people are all different--not the same--not at all the same. The South is most hated by such compulsion driven fanatics, not because you were ever the intolerant land that they seek to picture, but precisely the opposite. You were the land of Jefferson, the land of tolerance, of an individualism so deep that many of your Confederate Army Officers felt free to redesign their own uniforms; a land where at a time when the hate crazed Pennsylvania radical Thadeus Stephens was Karl Marx's pen pal--Marx being the actual framer of Hitler's rationalizations for demonizing the European Jews--had two Jewish Senators, one of whom was named Secretary of State for the Confederacy.

The false history of the South is easily refuted by such witnesses as Booker T. Washington, whose description of race relations in the 1890s paints the true picture that Hollywood & the NEA have been denying in both movies & classrooms since the 1950s.

Sorry to get up on a typing "soap box." It is just that we really need you folks on our side.

Always great to "hear" from you.

Bill

[FreedomPoster]

Good stuff. Thanks, I needed that.

[FreedomPoster]

Good stuff. Thanks, I needed that.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Like Senator Byrd.

[Pelham]

Where do you get your “history”?

[Pelham]

Evidently you never heard of Strom Thurmond.

[Fledermaus]

I’m a Goldwater/Reagan Republican...I live near Nashville...I hate Andrew Jackson and his racist party. Cherokee murderer.

[Fledermaus]

And so they lie again to their slaves and then stab them in the back again by diluting their power filling the void will illegal aliens.

Stupid Dem blacks are in for a reckoning soon. Maybe they’ll come back to the party of freedom in the South.

Of course I’m 53 and will die before that.

[jmacusa]

Or maybe it should read,’’That Johnson appealed to the Republican minority in the Senate under Everett Dirkson(R-Wisconsin) for passage after Democrats in the House filibustered it''.

[jmacusa]

So, where in your narrative does slavery in the pre-1861 South fit in?

[Durus]

Of course I have but he wasn't the entirety of the Dixiecrat movement. The facts don't lie, the overwhelming majority of Dixiecrats went back to their Democrat roots when the party dissolved.

[liberalh8ter]

Jesse Jackson, the original affirmative action celebutard. He's a reverend of nothing and a political expert minus academia. Is he just that good or is he just that black?

[I cannot think of a name]

Actually, most of how the bill got passed was an agreement to ignore the superior Boeing and Douglas designs (over Air Force objections), and pick the Lockheed version of what would become the C-5A, only because Lockheed had agreed to build it in the deep South. That brought the necessary deep South Democrat support necessary (mainly Wilbur Mills).

[Ohioan]

I posted a direct link to the Booker T. Washington speech, which puts the matter into an accurate perspective, in the reply to which you replied in your query. Read what he had to say, in the context of what is being argued in this thread.

William Flax

[jmacusa]

I said the pre-1861 South and your reference to ‘’tolerance’’ eludes me. How was slavery ‘’tolerance’’?