Yep. BTW, this is Warsaw 1945.
This is Grozny, 1990s.
Posted on 08/29/2012 2:04:06 PM PDT by servo1969
It's unfortunate that Fat Man wasn't ready in time for the European Theater. American lives might have been saved.
Just remember Pearl Harbor was a 7 pronged attack, with the majority of their attacks spent on the British and Dutch colonials from India to the Pacific and only followed after many years of very unjust Japanese conquest throughout Eastern Asia.
In some regards I suspect Roosevelt knew how to mobilize the national volition, although I never have concurred with his politics.
He was even referred to as “Raving Roland” by the hierarchy.
His life’s ambition was to be Minister of Justice.....which was denied him because of a leftist past.
Even Hitler called Friesler “That Old Bolshevik Bigmouth”.
Oh, I know.
I’ve read Prange and Goldberg’s books.
Farago’s, too.
No.
Never argued there were zero resistors, just very very few. Thus my condemnation of their populace for supportive participation in the aggression and atrocities.
i manage a seniors property, we have 6 residents that were born in Germany pre-WW2. They have been very candid about life during the war. Most of what they remember is the hunger. They werent as afraid of the bombs as much as they were of not having food the next day. One resident summed it up for me who was forced into the Hitlerjugend, “you did what you had to do just to eat, you joined the military so your parents and sisters could eat.”
Your points are well-taken, but as I said before, any innocent blood is firmly on the hands of Hitler, not the Allies.
And don’t get me started on the evil that was the Versailles Treaty.....Clemenceau and company deserve some responsibility for sowing the seeds of the next war.
When I was in Germany during my first enlisted tour there, I was priviliged to assist some old veerans with the removal of certain explosive ordnance from one of those exact same WWII caches, underground about halfway between Munich and Augsburg, not too far from the former Messerschmitt A.G. aircraft factory. The cache included several dozen MP44 and MP40 SMGs and ten or twelve wartime P-38 pistols, not a P.08 *Luger* in the bunch. The ammo for them was tested and found to be okay, and left right where it was. The old Panzerfausts, however, were disposed of. And, I suspect, were replaced with newer ones.
I'm sure they had all sorts of other novelties in other location.
A decade or so back when the Finns were trying to inventory and rationalize some of the military material that's accumulated their during their last three wars, they came up with all sorts of ordnance, including one Finn farmer with an 88mm Flak 18 in his barn, which he towed in behind his tractor, along with a couple hundred high explosive and antitank rounds for it.
My Uncle shuttled the troops to the shores of Normandy
A few years back I remember the Frenchy's bitchen about our troops being buried there.....This is the thanks we got after we saved the worthless arses.
Needless to say I was practicing my list of cursewords that day....It still p!sses me off!
This is Grozny, 1990s.
And that idiot Wilson went along with him hoping the Old Walrus would support his League of Nations crackpipe-dream.
As usual, the French have a hand in royally screwing things up.
Did a few in Italy, Netherlands . Guam. Philippines and Germany over my career. Left a few myself in the Kuwaiti and UAE deserts ..... Ya just never know....... Old ones are impressive yet Saddassed Insanes troops had a buttload of new PSG-1’s, MP5SDA3’s etc...new in factory packages.
Those went missing quick ! .......:o)
Stay safe Archy
Those went missing quick ! .......:o)
I left sterile hardware stored behind in Israel, where I hope to get back once more, and in Rhodesia, where I probably won't, and Serbia, where I just might.
Most of the nifty new stuff that I got my hands on that was off the books was in the hands of other qualified users, who were at least p[oilit enough to let my try out their goodies and familiarize wit tem a bit. The first Minimi/M240 SAW I ever fired was actually an Aussie F89A1 Minimi, and so on.
I tend to like the really neat historical relics of another age that because of efficiency or necessity, remain in real-world service. I did have a G36 carbine sort of stick to me last time I was let out of the cage. And yep, it made it home.
Lots of our schools were improvised, modified tools in nature and as you suggest simple. Soap dish boomage to dremel tool / kitchen table stem guns. Favorite school I attended every chance was foreign materials intelligence school at Aberdeen MD . Like going to the Chicago Museam of Science and Industry.... You couldn’t see and experience everything in just one visit. Sino-Soviet, Warsaw Pact, NATO, bygone eras, unique and simple from handguns to artillery. Really enjoyed and used the lessons from that school as much if not more than my EOD related schools and experiences.
Chemical, Nuclear, biological, conventional ect... Not really work when you are allowed to earn a living doing what you enjoy. 40 years so far. Only a few more holes in me than I was born with so it’s all good .
Just a few more years and I’m going to start tinkering with rat rods full time. The kind that require a Tetnus shot to drive per se. Only way I want to get rusty in my old age.
Stay safe Archy ......
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