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To: MasterGunner01
My Gr Gr Grandfather was named Elias Vansickle. He had quite a life. Below is something I typed from the Congressional Record about the Senate hearings concerning the "Indian problem" in early Texas.

Statement of Elias Vansickle

Nacodoches, January 23, 1839.

By request, Elias Vansickle states that, about the 1st of October last, he was taken prisoner at the Saline, Nacodoches county, by a party of Mexican Boluxee and Shawanie Indians, and kept by them until the 21st of December following, when he made his escape.

He states that he was in their camp at the Kickapoo town at the time of the battle between General Rusk’s force and them, and that there were then fifteen Cherokees with them, who all joined in the attack upon General Rusk’s camp.

He states, also, that Dogshoot, a Cherokee, came into the enemy some time before and brought a scalp which he said belonged to one of the Kilough family, who had been murdered about the same time in the Cherokee nation. The Cherokees, Dogshoot and others, said that in three days from that time, thirty besides those in the camp would join them, and unite with them in a war upon the white settlements. Several Shawanies—five, he thinks, in number—were at the hostile camp some days previous to the battle. Fifteen Coshattees were in the battle against us, led by Benash, a chief. Another chief was killed a few days before in an action between Major Mabbit’s command and the Indians, in which it is known the latter made the attack

36 posted on 08/26/2012 3:38:10 PM PDT by saminfl
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To: saminfl

I can only imagine what was going through the minds of the Wehrmacht troopers when they saw their opponents up close and personal, dressed like Huron warriors on the warpath, looking to lift a few scalps.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 3:50:14 PM PDT by Ax
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To: saminfl

That is a fascinating family story. Those were tough times.

My late wife’s family on her Father’s side went through a terrible battle with Indians in Texas. It was published in one of the Old West magazines.

They were also tough people.


52 posted on 08/26/2012 8:59:06 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: saminfl
A trivia point about the Indian Wars. Scalping was a horrific atrocity that was introduced on a large scale to the Indian tribes by the British during the American Revolution. Major Henry Hamilton was the commander of Fort Detroit and unleashed the British Indian allies upon the colonists on the Western side of the Allegheny Mountains. The colonists called him “hair buyer Hamiliton” after his alleged practice of buying scalps.

From Wikipedia:

In 1775, Hamilton was appointed Lieutenant Governor and Superintendent of Indian Affairs at Fort Detroit, one of five newly created lieutenant governorships in the recently expanded Province of Quebec. The American Revolutionary War was already underway by the time Hamilton arrived at Detroit to assume his duties. Hamilton was in a difficult position: as a civil official, Hamilton had few regular troops at his command, and the natives of the region — French Canadians and American Indians — were not all supporters of the British regime. Normand Macleod, a local fur trader, acted as “town major” before Hamilton's arrival.

Hamilton became adept at diplomacy with American Indians, establishing good relations with local Indian leaders. Hamilton, an amateur artist, sketched portraits of many Native Americans while in Detroit, leaving what has been called the “earliest and largest collection of life portraits of Native Americans of the Upper Great Lakes.” When the war began, British officials initially determined not to enlist Indians as allies in the war effort, but in 1777 Hamilton received instructions to encourage Indian raids against the American frontier settlements of Virginia and Pennsylvania. This was a controversial policy because it was realised that civilian colonists would inevitably be killed in these raids. Hamilton attempted to limit civilian casualties by sending British officers and French-Canadian militia with the American Indian war parties. Nevertheless, hundreds of settlers in Kentucky and western Pennsylvania were killed and scalped by raiding parties during the war. In Detroit, Hamilton is alleged to have paid bounties for prisoners and scalps brought in by the Indians. He became hated by American settlers, who dubbed him the “Hair buyer General”.

In 1778, Virginia forces under Colonel George Rogers Clark captured several undermanned British posts in the Illinois country, including Fort Sackville at Vincennes. Hamilton set out from Detroit on 7 October 1778 to recapture the post, 600 miles away. His small force gathered American Indian allies along the way, and entered Vincennes on 17 December 1778, capturing Fort Sackville and the American commandant, Captain Leonard Helm. In February 1779, Colonel Clark returned to Vincennes in a surprise march, recapturing the outpost and taking Hamilton prisoner.

Because of his support of the Indian raids, the Virginians regarded Hamilton as a war criminal rather than a conventional prisoner of war. Clark sent Hamilton to Williamsburg, Virginia, where he was jailed and often kept in irons by Governor Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson finally granted Hamilton parole at the instructions of General George Washington. In early 1781, Hamilton was exchanged and traveled to London

53 posted on 08/26/2012 10:11:15 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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