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To: donna

has nothing to do with it.

It’s a system and an industry.

The whole thing is a scam. Even I was sucked into the 3 strikes law and it hosed the lives of losers who do nothing more than steal loaves of bread.

KahLeeFawnEeeYah is a Socialist/Marxist Apparatchik Territory.


3 posted on 08/19/2012 1:42:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

It has EVERYTHING to do with it.


5 posted on 08/19/2012 2:40:55 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Vendome
I am impressed you picked up on the system and industry. Illegal aliens may be contributing to the total, but they are not the cause of over crowding.

I am also impressed no one on this thread has been bashing the men and women in jail. They screwed up, but deserve humane living conditions.

10 posted on 08/19/2012 5:06:37 AM PDT by shatcher (Judges 17:6b Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.)
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To: Vendome

“The whole thing is a scam. Even I was sucked into the 3 strikes law and it hosed the lives of losers who do nothing more than steal loaves of bread.”

It also put away felons that otherwise were getting a free pass out of jail thanks to liberal judges.

...and NO ONE got their lives hosed JUST for stealing break, one must look at what they did prior. It was a media trick.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 6:03:42 AM PDT by BobL (If you're afraid of guns, get yourself a wife that isn't)
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To: Vendome
It’s a system and an industry.

There is a real problem with releasing non violent offenders, what do you do with them once they are out? There are no jobs for them.

The prison system as it currently exist is a giant waste of human capital. Once released most of them don't function well in society simply because they have become institutionalized, heck even the guards and staff take on a institutionalized mindset.

People commit crimes , make mistakes and go to prison. Prison is punishment, it should be, it should be a life altering experience. It should not though be a farm system that just recycles criminals.

I don't know what the answer is but I do know the current prison industry is not working.

16 posted on 08/19/2012 6:27:51 AM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: Vendome

The sad thing is that California’s recidivism rate is 65.1% within three years after release. Why wouldn’t the prison industry be happy with that?

Freegards


18 posted on 08/19/2012 6:32:58 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Vendome
It’s a system and an industry.

The prison guard union (CCPOA) is a vicious, hungry monster. Any politician (either party) who refuses to feed it is "soft on crime" and must be defeated.

19 posted on 08/19/2012 6:34:51 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Vendome

So just tell me, how many illegal aliens?


21 posted on 08/19/2012 8:08:40 AM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: Vendome
Vendome said: "Even I was sucked into the 3 strikes law and it hosed the lives of losers who do nothing more than steal loaves of bread."

How about a "Four Strikes Law" then?

There may be justification for leniency for first offenders. When does that justification disappear?

How about if we simply make the first felony a one-year sentence and then simply double the sentence for later felonies? Would that be more fair?

If you do the math and recognize the incredible rate of recidivism you would probably end up with the same number of criminals serving life sentences.

Do you have to lock your car when you park in a shopping center parking lot? Why is that? How long could you park without locking your car before the contents or the car are stolen?

San Francisco conducted a sting years ago which consisted of portraying a helpless person holding cash. The sting resulted in the arrest of the same man TWICE in a nine-month period. How about telling us your estimate of the number of crimes that man must have committed during that nine months that went unsolved?

I have no sympathy for career criminals.

26 posted on 08/19/2012 10:01:01 AM PDT by William Tell
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