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Posted on 08/16/2012 6:27:13 AM PDT by Why So Serious

The Department of Homeland Security purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition followed by the National Oceanic and Atmosphere Administration buying 46,000 wounds. This is now being followed by the Social Security Administration buying 174,000 rounds to be delivered to 41 locations around the country. What is this all about?


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1 posted on 08/16/2012 6:27:15 AM PDT by Why So Serious
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It gets better. The solicitation now contains redacted sections apparently due to the intense controversy that has sprung up around these solicitations.

The solicitation explains how the contract put out by the DHS to purchase the ammunition was not subject to “full and open competition,” a process justified by what the DHS claims was an “unusual and compelling urgency” to acquire the bullets, noting that there is a shortage of bullets which is threatening a situation which could cause “substantial safety issues for the government” should law enforcement officials not be adequately armed.

Take from this what you will, but it sounds like the feds expect some imminent violence. I can’t imagine why...


2 posted on 08/16/2012 6:29:55 AM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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maybe Senators and Congresscritters have stock in the ammo company....


3 posted on 08/16/2012 6:30:34 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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It’s about end-of-fiscial-year use-up-the-budget buys. A lot more gov’t agencies need ammo than we realize (ex.: Social Security Administration fraud department may want some protection when knocking on a felon’s door, even if the Sheriff is knocking too). One dysfunction of gov’t budgets is “use it or lose it”: if they don’t spend what’s allocated for this year, they won’t get as much next year. Put the two together, and you get a lot of agencies ordering a lot of high-quality ammo to use up budgeted funds. Do the research & math, assuming 2K rounds per agent, and most of the numbers work out in a rational, sane manner.

Of course, freaking out over DHS ordering a billion rounds is more fun. And even divided out in a benefit-of-the-doubt manner, the quantity seems rather high...


4 posted on 08/16/2012 6:32:30 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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What in the world does NOAA and SSA need with bullets? Understand the DHS need but don’t even think NOAA and SSA know what they are for...


5 posted on 08/16/2012 6:33:32 AM PDT by vet7279
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Considering how easy it would be to hide the info, I’d say they’re advertizing it for a reason. I think its at least partly an attempt to intimidate.

90% of the people in these agencies are desk pilots who have never touched a gun in their lives.


6 posted on 08/16/2012 6:33:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Why So Serious

It is very disconcerting. I actually had a hard time sleeping last night worried about what is coming. Something very evil is about to befall this country and still too many people refuse to see it.


7 posted on 08/16/2012 6:34:56 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: ctdonath2

I suspect that its at least partly a means of hiding something else. Possibly large amounts of ammo going to Syria.


8 posted on 08/16/2012 6:35:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ctdonath2
Of course, freaking out over DHS...
I am not sure I agree with being concerned with DHS purchasing enough ammunition to shoot every man, woman and child in the US a couple of times over is "freaking out".
9 posted on 08/16/2012 6:37:50 AM PDT by vet7279
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“unusual and compelling urgency”

Ah, missed that bit. Link?

10 posted on 08/16/2012 6:38:53 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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“What in the world does NOAA and SSA need with bullets? “

NOAA has a fisheries enforcement division, basically cops on boats, and they board vessels that might be committing crimes. SSA has a cop section that investigates fraud, and they knock-knock on doors with indicted felons behind them (you have to give up SS benefits if you are being prosecuted for a felony). These guys serve warrants too, and they feel better packing.

So what is going on is cops buying ammo. Some transactions do look funny, but that’s the basics, cops buying ammo.


11 posted on 08/16/2012 6:41:21 AM PDT by DBrow
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I am not sure I agree with being concerned with DHS purchasing enough ammunition to shoot every man, woman and child in the US a couple of times over is "freaking out".

Do we have to make an appointment or what? After all the DHS is outnumbered thousands of times over.
12 posted on 08/16/2012 6:42:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ronnyquest

Can you post a link to that req? TIA


13 posted on 08/16/2012 6:44:25 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow
https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=4c35c09c9315981b2f82beee2fc6629d
14 posted on 08/16/2012 6:46:02 AM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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I have emailed my Congress-critter (Richard Nugent) and asked about this. Waiting to here his response.


15 posted on 08/16/2012 6:46:41 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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BY LAW, the only agency that can receive transfers of anything, including funds, from other agencies of government is...the CIA.


16 posted on 08/16/2012 6:48:16 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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Thanks! Wow, urgent and compelling. And who knew that ICE, FPS and CPB expended that much .223 on a regular basis!


18 posted on 08/16/2012 6:52:37 AM PDT by DBrow
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Law means little to these clowns and hasn’t for decades.

As far as I’m concerned, advertizing the ammo buys is unfortunately effective propaganda.


19 posted on 08/16/2012 6:54:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ctdonath2
re end-of-fiscal-year use-it-or-lose-it: Why would they order ammo (does NOAA even have any guns)? Why not more office supplies (you can never have enough of those)? Has this (buying ammo) been done before, or is it only since Zero has been in office?

I don't know. If true, it's very strange (and suspicious). If not true, well......

20 posted on 08/16/2012 6:56:52 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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