Posted on 08/08/2012 7:39:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Based on the lack of records, perhaps another would be President of the United States.
If people have the desire, look at circuit board designer positions. They are highly payed positions and normally don’t require a degree. The last person I talked to was making $160,000/year. When I retired, I was a design manager and worked my way up through the ranks. Good pay, clean working conditions.
Looks like good information. I plan to post on FB when I get home. Thanks.
Hilton Hotel is the happiest place to work.....hmmmmm.
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I work in the art and advertising business and freelance on the side.
I started working as an apprentice in a studio while in art college and discovered that I was learning more there than I was in the classroom. So, with only a few credits left to achieve my BFA, I quit going.
I make six figures now. Not bad for a dummy.
My highest paying IT job (I have no degree) paid $125 an hour.
A degree helps, but once you hit 30, a lot of employers are more interested in what you’ve done with what education you have, not what shingles you can decorate your office wall with.
One of my daughters is a 30 year old Business Analyst in her first year. She’s making $60k.
She has a GED.
If you are older, back from the days when most people didn’t go to university, experience counts for more and they are more willing to forgive you for not having a degree, but if you are younger (maybe 30s or less) employers will generally expect you to have a degree, and getting your foot in the door in your early 20s without a degree is going to be hard...
CBD dont need Engineering Degrees?
Yeah, but aren’t rates down considerably? All the guys I know who used to get that rate are now struggling to get $80 or $90 an hour.
Oy don’t tell me that. I was actually studying circuit board design 20 years ago, even made my own for a radio but lost interest. What would they be used for today, mainly computers? That would seem very high tech.
If I was mid 20's, I'd put everything aside for about 5 years, work the 12 plus hrs a day, learn soon there are other, easier, more lucrative jobs in the industry, and by the time your 30, you'll HAVE the truck, the boat, the house and if you desire, the wife and family .. well fed and cared for.
I bid ambitious young men to come to west/SW Penn. ... especially if you're a cdl tanker driver ... dry bulk sand for the frackers, and or water for the drillers
I've known facility designers in the oil/gas field to make $250k/yr including overtime. This will be very experienced hands and likely have an associate degree or enough training to be equivalent.
I cannot speak for Circuit Boards, but in oil/gas facilities engineering, designers work with engineers. The engineer takes legal responsibility but depends on many different designers to produce a set of drawings.
**A young, healthy man can start around 50K in the gas fields and can only go up.***
Welder-machinist, fit up and lay out, electrician, power plant operator, Pipe fitter and plumber. Steel fabricator. Roughneck, truck driver.
The list of good money jobs is endless, IF YOU WANT TO WORK!
Unfortunately most are like my worthless brother-in-law (If you know him he probably owes you money) who has not held a job in 28 years.
Or my future son-in-law who at the age of 29 has decided he wants to major in Philosophy.
What kind of background would you need?
Not necessarily. You are not there to design the circuits. That’s up to engineering. You are there to put the engineers designs into a circuit board design. Circuit Board Designers are there to service engineering. What you do need to know is how a circuit board is manufactured. Follow Mil-Std-275 and you can handle just about anything. Learning manufacturing can be attained by visiting a few manufacturing plants once in awhile. A designer must understand what can and cannot be manufactured. Take the knowledge and put it into the design. Design can’t be learned over night but will little effort, it can become second nature. Kind of like an artist. In fact, a designer is an artist of sorts.
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