[Little Bill]

I did drug and alcohol counseling as a part of Viet Nam rehab program when I was in School. I waded through knee deep Bull Shit, I was a Two Tour Vite Nam Vet, they didn't know.

People in these programs work the system, I wouldn't trust a god-damned one one of them, you might help one or two who were worth helping the rest are future gutter trash, working the system.

[Lazamataz]

People in these programs work the system, I wouldn't trust a god-damned one one of them, you might help one or two who were worth helping the rest are future gutter trash, working the system.

I was future gutter trash too.

Right up until I decided not to be.

[Old Sarge]

Laz, listen to Little Bill's wisdom:

People in these programs work the system, I wouldn't trust a god-damned one of them, you might help one or two who were worth helping the rest are future gutter trash, working the system.

I was in the VA system for three years, and saw what Bill talks about.

Scum of the earth. Useless Eaters. Chemical-dependent violent offenders. And they game the system to dry out at the VA with 3-hots-and-a-cot, hit the streets, and cycle through it all over again. And they laugh at you and me, because it's our dime.