[MarkL]

Sometimes this can be problematic. Decide for yourself, however I would strongly suggest you do a google search for "massad ayoob handloads for self-defense" and decide for yourself.

I'd go with whatever Mas suggests, because he's the guy you want on your defense team if you're ever on trial for using a gun for self defense.

Mark

[Hardraade]

I’m just waiting for the first case involving these factory loads:

http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax/