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To: Ron H.

Its a shame.

As an old cop and vet, many times I was reprimanded for putting myself in danger, because I would never draw my weapon unless I shot something.

I would walk up and ask why you had a gun in your hand.

Maybe I was stupid. I never wore a vest either.


21 posted on 07/22/2012 11:51:01 PM PDT by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton

Unfortunately, we have too few peace officers and too many LEOs these days.

And now, we are being treated to frequent examples as to why peace officers are and were superior to LEOs.


22 posted on 07/23/2012 12:08:55 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Steve Newton
Its a shame.

As an old cop and vet, many times I was reprimanded for putting myself in danger, because I would never draw my weapon unless I shot something.

Yes, I do agree. It is easy to second guess situations like this and even I occasionally form an opinion based on what I read or see that is at odds with the published police version. I can only say that I'm glad I'm not in that situation. During my time in combat I practiced the 'shoot first' policy but that wasn't the same as being a police officer confronted with a man with a gun while responding to a call of the nature that is reported here in this news article.

It is a dangerous job but at the same time police officers are human and they have to deal with the fear factor. It's how the officer deals with that fear is what must be factored in, IMO. I personally believe that some officers panic and just shoot first when confronted with danger and fear and have only a spit second to decide to shoot or not and thus claim that they feared for their lives as it is usually seen as a get out of jail FREE card by the public. I do think that the police should not be allowed to be the only ones to investigate their own. There has got to be a better way to handle police involved shootings, IMHO.

26 posted on 07/23/2012 12:40:53 AM PDT by Ron H. (Beelzebub or Satan? Not relly all that much difference in the end. Neither one is good for America!)
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To: Steve Newton
Vests are part of the problem along with selective fire weapons, masks and other ninja gear. It breeds a paranoid and aggressive mindset that is in no way compatible with the age-old motto "to protect and serve."

We need community police, not jacked-up ninjas. If an officer thinks that he "needs" an M4 and body armor, he's doing it wrong. If areas are so dangerous that officers "need" military gear to police them, then the whole department is doing something wrong.

31 posted on 07/23/2012 7:45:12 AM PDT by jboot
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To: Steve Newton

You are the kind of policeman I was raised around. It is a pity that there no more like you.


55 posted on 07/23/2012 5:52:52 PM PDT by sport
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To: Steve Newton

Sir, we need more peace officers like you, especially now.

Thank you for your service.


78 posted on 07/23/2012 10:46:06 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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