[Lazamataz]

Well listen... I hear your complaints but I'm seriously wondering how long we can use white gloves to slap our opponents faces softly, while they use claw hammers to rip our jaws off.....after a while it becomes obvious that gentle nostrums softly offered like spring dew in the morning, is no longer cutting it.

We need to get dirty. Scarred, scabbed, bloody and dirty.

[Lazamataz]

See my above.

[AAABEST]

We need to get dirty. Scarred, scabbed, bloody and dirty.

Agreed. I'm all for that.

King Richard would cut the Muslims' heads off by the hundreds and roll them down hills at the horrified Jihadi armies below.

My only point here is that he didn't have to lie, sin or become like them to do it. We can beat as ruthless as need be and still maintain our dignity - if that makes any sense.