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To: Tallguy

While it may make some of you FEEL good to think about destroying the PSU Campus, and shutting down sports programs forever, I think we all know that that is not going to happen. The NCAA or the Big Ten may impose some sanctions, that remains to be seen.

What, however, is not going to change is the presence of perversions on our college campuses, and in all of society. What needs to be done in response to this, in all of society’s institutions, is to make sure that stringent systems, controls, and oversights are in effect to prevent this from happening again.

Hopefully, that is the one positive thing that can happen here, the heightened assurance that no-one is hurt again by this monstrous evil, on our campuses, in our churches, in our schools, and other institutions.


75 posted on 07/17/2012 12:45:44 PM PDT by fteuph
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To: fteuph
While it may make some of you FEEL good to think about destroying the PSU Campus, and shutting down sports programs forever, I think we all know that that is not going to happen.

It wouldn't be "Just" to shut down the entire sports program, but the University needs to be penalized because their senior decision-makers failed to take proper action in the interests of the victims as well as their own university. Frankly, if the Big Ten believes all that touchy-feely stuff that they put in their half-time PSA's they should be the ones sanctioning PSU. Because the Big Ten 'claims' that it is more than an athletic conference -- that it is rather an association of land-grant universities that stress academics and morality. Well, let's see if they act in defense of the other 11 universities by disassociating themselves from PSU for a period of time. I do think that would be just.

I say this in recognition that once again the "Too Big To Fail" argument lurkes unstated in the background. And it ticks me off.

76 posted on 07/17/2012 1:07:40 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: fteuph; A-B-O; Mrs. Don-o

Very well said.

I think there’s more to this latest hot topic than is being reported. I haven’t seen anything about the investigation into Second Mile or BOT or government officials. The media made this about Paterno and about Penn State.

The media made Paterno a legend and they then tore him down. The BOT and Admin (Spanier) were trying to get rid of him since the 90s. He became their scapegoat in this horrific, yet not surprising, case.

As an alum, I never got the “worship” (nor do I ever understand worship of any human being) but I did/do think he was an excellent coach and one of the good guys. I don’t think many people realize just how disliked he was by the Admin, BOT,some profs due to his conservative views and how he tried to make the football program one that incorporated academics, athleticism, and morality/responsibility.

I think his worshippers and his detractors share a common ground. I want no part of either.

Penn State was primarily a conservative leaning college (students/alums/profs, etc.). It was changing in the 80s when I attended but the liberalism wasn’t as prevalent. It was starting that’s for sure because I saw it myself during the time I attended. When Spanier was hired as President in the 90s, his agenda was clear to any who bothered to see. To those who aren’t aware of Graham Spanier, google him. He set out to change the Penn State University to fit his perverted agenda and the agenda of the extreme liberals. My husband and I stopped donating and stopped being members of the Alumni Association. My little tantrum. Then, we decided to try to fight it and rejoined the Alumni Association.

As Mrs. dono stated either here or on another thread pertaining to this topic, it’s not a Penn State problem. It’s a PC problem on our University campuses. It’s a PC liberalism problem in the extreme on our college campuses, schools, churches, entertainment outlets, and most importantly our families. People, in real life not anonymously on the internet, are afraid to speak up to fight this PC mentality.

So for all those who hated Paterno prior to this, and all those who hated sports or college sports,or college in general, I hope you eventually see this isn’t about Paterno or Penn State or college sports or sports or college. It’s about the extreme liberal agenda, protected by PC and the laws enacted, that’s killing our schools and our family structure/society.

Penn State won’t be shut down, none of the campuses (24 in all I think) will be bulldozed, and I seriously doubt the football program or any of the sports programs will be shut down. Nor should they be, imo.

As for me, I will continue being a proud Alum of Penn State for all the reasons I enjoyed attending the school.


86 posted on 07/17/2012 4:10:52 PM PDT by Twink
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