Posted on 07/14/2012 5:44:08 PM PDT by Kevmo
The inevitable mention of Kevmo's favorite con artist.
So where's it being used for such purposes?
That's right.
Nowhere.
That's called "fool's gold'. But you can find a deposit and work it down and there's just all sorts of mineral wealth in there.
That's called "fool's gold'. But you can find a deposit and work it down and there's just all sorts of mineral wealth in there.
Still not sure whether to use the pixie dust to get the thing started or use it after it starts to keep it running. Might e-mail Disney ... they are experts in fantasy creations.
Please stop stalking me.
Please stop stalking me.
Has anyone involved determined the conversion efficiency of this reaction? How much energy can be obtained from a mole of D2O? What are the daughter products? Are you left with helium atoms? or protium atoms? Can you generate more fuel i.e. deutreium and tritium in the process? It’s obviously a chemical reaction, because if it was truly a fusion reaction, the test setup would have vaporized itself, and everything around it. Even if D2 atoms were fusing in a nickel-palladium matrix, the energy resulting would be tremendous. It would have to be a chemical reaction that exploits the unique characterisics of the deuterium atom. With that being said, there is the possibilty that a reaction could occur within the crystalline structure of the catalyst. The only other process that I know of that can produce a sustainable hot fusion reaction is inertial electrostatic confinement. The neutron output is only around 10 17th or so though. The systems make great fast neutron emitters, but they make lousy power plants.
“Never happen. Too many BIG interests will be sure it never sees the light of day. Big Oil, Big Wind, Big Bio, Big Coal, etc.,,,take your pick.”
Nonsense.
If it works, someone - lots of folks - will make a ton of money on it.
There are a lot of entrepreneurial “Davids” out there itching to take on the BIG Interest “Goliaths”.
If I were “BIG Coal”, I’d be looking at this REAL CLOSE, in case this Carbon Footprint nonsense does not go away.
There are dozens of theories. None of them have been validated, a few of them have been invalidated.
My favorite is KP Sinha’s theory. Hagelstein’s latest theory is getting some mindshare. I think in the end, the solution will prove to be a combination of several theories.
Here’s a good place to start:
http://lenr-canr.org/
With vast amounts of power available to the individual, what need have most of us for the existing infrastructure of delivering energy, when we could br running it out of a small reactor in the back yard?
***It would be a classic case of disruptive technology. I think the last time society saw that large of a change was when the automobile became affordable.
Or when any kind of porn was available for anonymous downloading 24/7.
***Nope. Automobiles & cheap power change life for 100% of the population. Free porn just appeals to the male population, mostly.
Not government. A bunch of physics professors who are already sucking on the government tit. To the tune of $250 Billion.
And I'm still waiting for you to "show me the voodoo" on those two papers on heat and helium.
Energy output (experimentally measured/peer reviewed) ~23 MEV per He4 produced. And He4 is the final product...no "daughter products" are made. I'll leave the "energy per mole" calculation up to you.
"Can you generate more fuel i.e. deutreium and tritium in the process? It’s obviously a chemical reaction, because if it was truly a fusion reaction, the test setup would have vaporized itself, and everything around it.
No. It is CONTROLLED fusion. That's the whole point. There is evidence that tritium can be produced, but it is a very small side reaction.
"Even if D2 atoms were fusing in a nickel-palladium matrix, the energy resulting would be tremendous."
And that it is. With ~26 MEV per He4 produced.
"It would have to be a chemical reaction that exploits the unique characterisics of the deuterium atom. With that being said, there is the possibilty that a reaction could occur within the crystalline structure of the catalyst."
Nope. Too much energy.
"The only other process that I know of that can produce a sustainable hot fusion reaction is inertial electrostatic confinement. The neutron output is only around 10 17th or so though. The systems make great fast neutron emitters, but they make lousy power plants.
True.
Here are some sources about helium production via LENR:
Storms, E., A Review of the Cold Fusion Effect. J. Sci. Expl., 1996. 10(2): p. 185.
Karabut, A.B., Y.R. Kucherov, and I.B. Savvatimova, Nuclear product ratio for glow discharge in deuterium. Phys. Lett. A, 1992. 170: p. 265.
Miles, M., B.F. Bush, and J.J. Lagowski, Anomalous effects involving excess power, radiation, and helium production during D2O electrolysis using palladium cathodes. Fusion Technol., 1994. 25: p. 478.
Gozzi, D., et al., X-ray, heat excess and 4He in the D/Pd system. J. Electroanal. Chem., 1998. 452: p. 251.
Bush, B.F. and J.J. Lagowski. Methods of Generating Excess Heat with the Pons and Fleischmann Effect: Rigorous and Cost Effective Calorimetry, Nuclear Products Analysis of the Cathode and Helium Analysis. in The Seventh International Conference on Cold Fusion. 1998. Vancouver, Canada: ENECO, Inc., Salt Lake City, UT.
Isobe, Y., et al. Search for Coherent Deuteron Fusion by Beam and Electrolysis Experiments. in 8th International Conference on Cold Fusion. 2000. Lerici (La Spezia), Italy: Italian Physical Society, Bologna, Italy.
McKubre, M.C.H., et al. The Emergence of a Coherent Explanation for Anomalies Observed in D/Pd and H/Pd System: Evidence for 4He and 3He Production. in 8th International Conference on Cold Fusion. 2000. Lerici (La Spezia), Italy: Italian Physical Society, Bologna, Italy.
Arata, Y. and Y.C. Zhang, Helium (4He, 3He) within deuterated Pd-black. Proc. Jpn. Acad., Ser. B, 1997. 73: p. 1.
Just like big equine kept the internal combustion engine under wraps.
I don’t debate sillness as science. Science is repeatable. Cold fusion is not, peer review be damned. This is all hype and is not recognized as scientific effort for a reason. Scientific scams are as old as science itself.
Science does not happen but once. — Newton.
I don’t debate sillness as science. Science is repeatable. Cold fusion is not, peer review be damned. This is all hype and is not recognized as scientific effort for a reason. Scientific scams are as old as science itself.
Science does not happen but once. — Newton.
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