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To: driftless2

Here, it is generally accepted that a city consisting of subdivisions with homes on less than 1/2 acre-30 miles away in SA, “city” lots are 1/4 acre or less, except in la-de-da gated neighborhoods. Cities have grocery stores, lots of commercial properties, etc. Obviously, except for a couple of greenway areas, SA is not a wildlife habitat area for anything but squirrels and birds.

That is why I don’t live there-I like it in the country where I grew up, but it is not for everyone. The nearest city-type groceries are at the general store, 5.6 miles away. There isn’t even a post office within 16 miles.

Lots out here are mostly 1 acre or more-and since early 2000, any new ones platted have to be over 2 1/2 acres-it has been one lot, one dwelling, no exceptions for over 30 years. This area is resource-conservation oriented-there are also two large state designated wilderness areas in close proximity-you cannot build within several acres of them. So, I definately live in the territory of the wild animals-state fish and game and natural resource commission says I’m welcome to live here, hike, bike and enjoy, but the critters were here first. Pets running loose teach the predators to be lazy (they normally eat deer, birds, varmints etc), and to hang out near humans for easy meals of what my daughter calls soft, slow city pets. They also lose their fear of humans, which makes them dangerous.

A neighbor who moved here from the city loved letting her two standard poodles run free-thought it made them happy, even though she was fined twice, and told they would end up eaten by predators or being shot by a rancher for running livestock. She ignored the sheriff, and soon after, one of the dogs fell victim to the resident mountain lion, and she demanded the game warden shoot the cat. She was told to get over it, mountain lion was here first and let that be a lesson in “real” country living.

She was also told that if the remaining poodle was caught running loose, it would be picked up and re-homed with someone who would keep it safe. As I said, living in the boonies it is not for everyone-the rules are different where humans are not the only ones who matter.


42 posted on 07/12/2012 1:04:41 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5
I agree: critters were there first. Maybe. But even if they were: so what? Look, I'm not saying that humans should be allowed to kill whatever critter gets in their way. I'm just trying to counter the oft-repeated argument that some people (not necessarily you) make that people get what they deserve when they or their pets get attacked by wild creatures because they went into "their" territory. It's not their territory. It's the territory of the creature that can best adapt to it.

Should people be careful about where they live? Absolutely. But many times certain people, usually wacko environmentalists, just want to keep people fenced in big cities and let the animals dominate the wild. So they use the argument that humans should be restricted as to where they live and not be allowed to go into the wild critters environment. Remember, practically every place on earth was wild at one time.

P.S I live in western Wisconsin. In the past thirty-forty years this area has seen a reintroduction of wild animals that had not been seen around these parts for many decades previous. I'm talking bears, coyotes, wolves, pumas, wild pigs (from Texas), and oppossums. Are they now in my territory? (No armadillos yet..but they are proceeding northwards and have made it to Kansas).

60 posted on 07/13/2012 6:33:42 AM PDT by driftless2
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