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1 posted on 07/06/2012 7:42:52 PM PDT by Altariel
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all AA home meetings....better get back in the church basements.


2 posted on 07/06/2012 7:49:22 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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To: Altariel

Either we’re not getting the whole story or something is horribly wrong in Arizona.


3 posted on 07/06/2012 7:57:13 PM PDT by bubbacluck (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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Molon Labe


4 posted on 07/06/2012 7:58:02 PM PDT by IAmNotAnAnimal (1/509th Army Ranger Retiree - Go Swamp Dogs!)
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This in what was once a very conservative state - how times have changed!


5 posted on 07/06/2012 7:59:19 PM PDT by Ron C.
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SHould have occupied overnight tents in the city square and banged on bongos for Jesus for the cause of illegal immigration. Then everything would have been just dandy.


6 posted on 07/06/2012 8:00:04 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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If it had been a communist study group, there would be no problem.


7 posted on 07/06/2012 8:02:39 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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I was following until: “his family built a structure in their back hard.” This was not a smart thing to do. Sounds like they built a what a reasonable person would call a “church” in a residential neighborhood.


8 posted on 07/06/2012 8:03:21 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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Since when do building codes override the First Amendment.

It is 1776 again people.


9 posted on 07/06/2012 8:04:35 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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The Arizona governor refused to back down from obama. The top cop of the country (obama unfortunately), is now going to seriously crack down on such disobedience. Hate to tell the residents of Arizona this, but obama has a loyal police force and court system scrutinizing your every move now. Abuse of police powers is a handy way of breaking the will of a population, and this fact is not lost on a person such as obama. Police and public servant unions have their benefits, as long as you do what the thugs at the top tell you to do, therefore, you have a willing and compliant army at your disposal.
11 posted on 07/06/2012 8:15:03 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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If they were holding a GLBT function in their home, everything would have been fine.


16 posted on 07/06/2012 8:28:50 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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What if it was a once a week Boy Scout meeting?


18 posted on 07/06/2012 8:33:19 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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Go to the Blaze and watch the video. Doing a home Bible study is not the guys problem.
Stretching zoning laws and failing building codes is his problem.


19 posted on 07/06/2012 8:35:02 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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Unless the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals grants an emergency injunction, he will be jailed as early as next week.

Not reassuring.

It is reasonable to assume we don't have all the minute details. Still, most of us are are wondering if this story was identical *except* that the couple and their activity was a protected constituent of the left, would we even be reading it?

Not a chance.

24 posted on 07/06/2012 8:47:08 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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4.5 Acres in Phoenix. I have a feeling someone in the city wants to subdivide that property.


30 posted on 07/06/2012 9:07:03 PM PDT by mnehring
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https://www.facebook.com/PastorMichaelSalman?sk=wall


31 posted on 07/06/2012 9:09:04 PM PDT by mnehring
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“Officials came in and found 67 code violations. From a failure to post exit signs to a lack of handicap signs, Phoenix officials left no stone unturned”

I have seen the future and it sucks. This is Obamaworld on a microscopic scale. When laws get too numerous and complicated, government busybodies can throw anyone they don’t like in the slammer whenever they feel like it.


32 posted on 07/06/2012 9:22:47 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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If the guys all get prayer mats and the gals wear Burqas, they will let them alone.


35 posted on 07/06/2012 9:50:30 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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City officials claim that he’s running an operation that is reminiscent of a home church

Did those city officials have a 4th of July bbq and invite over friends and relatives? Oops, sounds like they're running an operation that is reminiscent of a home restaurant and entertainment venue.

37 posted on 07/06/2012 10:18:47 PM PDT by bgill
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Those who try to save their life will lose it.......you’ll never get me alive copper.


40 posted on 07/06/2012 11:09:56 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (1 if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by SCOTUS)
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From what I read the man want to have public meetings three times a week in a 2,000 square foot building, which has a pulpit and chairs for as many as 40 people, which he built after obtaining a a permit to convert a garage into a game room.

The city of Phoenix forbids any other occupancy or use, which can be sticky (what if they played Bible games), but the man apparently could have a church there if he complied with the normal requirements for such.

The question is whether the state has a legit interest is not only insuring homes are safely built, but that meeting houses of a certain size can require more safety features.

And at what size or frequency does having regular meetings for any purpose at your house require these extra requirements.

These are legit questions as i see them, and both sides need to be reasonable, with tolerance but not compromise, which can be a grey area.


44 posted on 07/07/2012 8:18:01 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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