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Don’t Eat Salad with Fat-Free Dressing Says Science
Gizmodo ^ | JUL 5, 2012 1:40 PM | Gizmodo

Posted on 07/05/2012 12:00:01 PM PDT by James C. Bennett

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To: rarestia

Thank you...I appreciate that.

Fat is our friend!


81 posted on 07/05/2012 6:09:40 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: TurboZamboni

oh bacon in a salad is fantastic. add ranch dressing and it’s almost like eating a BLT!


82 posted on 07/05/2012 6:27:36 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Aspartame really took the pizzazz out of Fresca that cyclamates (which are still legal in Canada) gave it. Aspartame makes Fresca pedestrian. Even saccharin would produce a superior Fresca, IMHO.

I remember drinking one when I was a kid when they first came out LOL. I didn't try another one for a real long time.

83 posted on 07/05/2012 7:32:59 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: James C. Bennett

olive oil and either vinegar/lemon juice...no measuring, just drizzle it over the salad....its that easy...


84 posted on 07/05/2012 9:52:54 PM PDT by cherry (Catholics for Romney)
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To: Nifster

I’m not making an argument in any way, I’m simply discussing my consumption preferences with other FReepers as a way to show that eating properly (”clean”) is a surefire way to drop the pounds and keep them off.

People have become accustomed to drive-thru slop, salt-laden entrees at sit-down restaurants, huge portions, and obscene desserts. If common sense would prevail, a person could step back, understand their choices, and make decisions based on what they know to be a correct option for health.

Sadly, because of misinformation from the USDA and other Federal alphabet agencies and the proliferation of sweets in everything from soft drinks to snacks, people often choose the worst things for them under the guise of “feeling/tasting good” as opposed to being good for them.

I’ll admit, changing your eating habits is brutal. It took me years of false starts before I finally settled into a groove. My wake-up call was shopping for pants in the big&tall at Dillards and having to buy size 48 slacks. Since then, I’ve never looked back.

And as to our ongoing discussion, my point about eating too much is that people often overeat because their bodies are telling them that they’re still hungry. When you eat junk laden with sugar and simple carbohydrates, your body blows through them quickly and leaves you hungry an hour later. If people took to snacking on fresh fruit and nuts and committed to eating 4-6 small meals a day, the want to eat junk will subside almost immediately.

Like I said, it took years for me to finally settle into that groove, but once I was there, the junk food I used to eat looked unappetizing and overall disgusting compared to the yummy goodness of a handful of smoked almonds or fresh grapes.


85 posted on 07/06/2012 6:15:41 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
If people took to snacking on fresh fruit and nuts and committed to eating 4-6 small meals a day, the want to eat junk will subside almost immediately.

Bull crap. Absolute lie. If it did for you great but to say it will for others because it did for you is total malarkey.

You sound a bit like many ex-smokers who are the most sanctimonious asses in the world. They HAD to quit smoking and became miserable and hateful to anyone else who hasn't HAD to quit. They are unhappy and their goal is to make everyone else unhappy.

86 posted on 07/06/2012 9:44:12 AM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Eaker

Hey Eaker. Take a look at that gut between you and the desk. I’m the sanctimonious one? I’m the one backed up by over a decade of research and proof that America’s present lifestyle of sugary excess is the reason for her expanding waistlines.

You don’t have to like what I am saying, but to deny it based solely on your belief that I’m a sanctimonious asshole who is propagating lies means that you’re only denying your own health. If you’re one of the lucky percentage of the population who can eat everything in sight and not gain an ounce, bravo. If you’re one of the bulging masses, get over yourself and start getting educated on how to better yourself.


87 posted on 07/06/2012 9:49:49 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I don’t think we are in disagreement... except maybe over sugar. I don’t blame sugar but rather so much use of processed or premade food. That I think we both agree on.

Small meals numerous times a day works for me too. I actually prefer a raw almond as long as it is from this year’s crop. It has the most wonderful flavor.

Glad to hear that you have found a way to eat for your body’s best performance


88 posted on 07/06/2012 10:07:32 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: rarestia
Hey Eaker. Take a look at that gut between you and the desk.

No fat there.

I’m the sanctimonious one?

I agree you are the sanctimonious one.

Obviously I struck a nerve and you recognized yourself in my post. I didn't say you were an ass but your last post makes it clear that you are indeed an ass.

Saying the desire for junk will simply go away is a lie. Repeating a lie makes you a liar.

Perhaps you should crawl off of your high horse and educate yourself a bit instead of advising others to do so. Few people take lying asses seriously.

89 posted on 07/06/2012 10:07:39 AM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: James C. Bennett
I have a sister who is six years younger than I and has been on an almost fat-free diet for years. Once in a while she does gag down a teaspoon of olive oil.

Her skin is extremely dry, lined and wrinkled. She easily appears more than ten years older than her actual age.

90 posted on 07/06/2012 10:14:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Eaker

You’re apparently one of the blessed few who has never had to deal with the roller coaster of weight management. I was a chubby kid, a fat teen, an obese collegian, and when I turned 25, I decided enough was enough. I tipped the scales, at my heaviest, at 389. I’ve stayed consistently in the 220 region for 5 years by doing exactly what I’ve espoused in my posts. You’ve obviously done nothing more than trolled the responses to this article and picked mine as one to denigrate and lambaste. Congratulations.

The article spoke to the problems with low-fat salad dressings, and the BIGGEST problem with them is sugar. Make the correlation, Eaker, FFS. I understand that correlation does not equal causation, but if you go back 30 years ago and research the “war on fat,” you’ll find a commonality between the reduction of fat and the increase in the waistlines of Americans.

Heck, when I was growing up, gummy bears were lauded as great snacks for kids because they were fat-free. Yes, they’re fat free, but they’re essentially sugar gel. My mother did abide by the fat-free craze, and as a child, I’m not going to question my mother; thus my waistline went to Hell in a hand basket.

You most certainly did call me a sanctimonious ass. Go back and read your post. Perhaps neither one of us is in the right frame of mind to be posting to one another, but you and I have gone round-and-round before; and I’m starting to think it’s personal.

The desire for junk DOES go away. There have been myriad health studies published in major medical journals showing that sugar affects the same parts of the brain as cocaine and other narcotics. It has the same markers for addiction. I’m a recovering alcoholic, so for me, sugar became a substitute as I struggled to stay away from the booze. Once you’re stable and the addiction markers slink away, it becomes very easy to say no to anything, even junk food.

You’re projecting yourself into this, and from what I’ve read from these two posts, you have absolutely no warranted grounds from which to preach. You’ve obviously not struggled with obesity in your life, and you have a chip on your shoulder for those who have. I’m trying to better my life and live it the healthiest way I know how.

As far as your last comment, from what I can tell in this thread, more people agree with me than with you. You might want to hold your tongue and do some educational reading of your own before you’re so quick to cast aspersions. This sort of knowledge about the body and how our bodies work to metabolize the components of our food is critical to live a long, healthy, junk-free life.


91 posted on 07/06/2012 10:23:48 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
Once you’re stable and the addiction markers slink away, it becomes very easy to say no to anything, even junk food.

A bit closer to the truth than your earlier comment though not true.

Also I don't recall ever posting to you so don't flatter yourself as this is not personal.

It is clear that you want to give advice but do not want to be given any. This says a lot about you.

92 posted on 07/06/2012 10:44:03 AM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Eaker

What on God’s good, green Earth are you on about, Eaker? Have you ever wrestled with addiction in your life? Give me SOMETHING other than contrarian opinions to work off of. You’re being deliberately nebulous, and it’s annoying as Hell.


93 posted on 07/06/2012 10:47:35 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Simple.

If you cannot understand then reread my posts after putting your pride away and it should be clear.


94 posted on 07/06/2012 12:13:50 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Eaker
I am NOT going to let a little punk who is incapable of rational discussion ruin my wedding weekend. Yours is nothing more than personal conjecture and projection of your own feelings about my opinion onto me as some sort of derisive rejection of fact. I can very easily drum up dozens of people who would agree with me wholeheartedly and who've struggled the same as I have with obesity and addiction. If you've never struggled with obesity or if you've never struggled with addiction, then yours is simply the opinion of a man who feels he's got a better answer than me. Mine is based on scientific evidence proving my point. Here's some reading material for you:

Eat Sugar and Still Lose Weight

7 Reasons You're Still Hungry-Even After You Just Ate!

3-Hour Diet or 3 Meals a Day?

6 Small Meals Diet

Go pound sand, sir. I've got bigger fish to fry!

95 posted on 07/06/2012 12:17:09 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Eaker

Your initial post was a simple denigration of my assessment that snacking on healthy alternatives and eating smaller meals throughout the day was a better way to go. You provided no scientific evidence to the contrary, and you provided no alternatives to my assessment.

Then you proceeded to attack me as someone who is unhappy and wants to make others unhappy through smart eating. For what it’s worth, I’m happier now than I ever have been. Junk food is a crutch. It’s a temporary “feel good.” It spikes your insulin, you feel a little better, then you crash wanting more. Science backs this up. This isn’t personal opinion.

Eating 3 larger meals? The body goes into a “panic” mode when you pack it in. It assumes that meal will be the last one for a while, and as a result, it stores fat instead of utilizing for energy. This is ingrained in the DNA of every human being on this planet. It’s not pseudo-science, it’s proven. Several articles I just posted discuss this in detail, if you’re interested.

Your initial post was a cherry-picked lambasting of my personal experience and success with this type of eating habit. It’s worked for me, it’s worked for people in overeater’s anonymous, it’s worked for people in Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers. You don’t have to spend money every month on special food. You don’t have to have someone tell you what to eat every day. Once you can make smart choices about your food, you can conquer any craving and avoid junk food permanently. You are simply trying to justify bad eating as normal, and, sir, makes you part of the problem.

In my personal opinion, you, sir, are a bully.


96 posted on 07/06/2012 12:24:04 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

My first post to you was addressing a lie.

No matter how many words you write until you actually address it it nothing has changed.

To tell people to eat six meals a day and their cravings for junk food will magically disappear is as stupid as telling an alcoholic a few glasses of kool-aid will make their cravings for booze disappear.

A lie is a lie is a lie.

The rest may be accurate but when built upon the initial lie it is meaningless.


97 posted on 07/06/2012 12:53:45 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Eaker

I never made the claim that eating six meals a day would cure craving. I’ve asserted all along that cravings for junk food will subside BY EATING HEALTHIER SNACKS. I NEVER inferred that cravings in general would cease by eating six meals a day.

I still crave frozen yogurt and on occasion beer, but I’ve learned how to put aside those cravings by choosing smarter SNACK ALTERNATIVES such as nuts and fruit.

The 3-hour diet, as they call it, is best for those who need to boost their metabolism, as eating small meals throughout the day keeps the furnace hot as opposed to the up-and-down, wax-and-wane, ebb-and-flow type of consumption that most Americans still practice.

I’m far from being a liar, and I’m insulted that you would deign to such namecalling without warrant. You’re no better than a knee-jerk liberal. You misread and maligned my discussion to meet some awkward idea in your mind, and with that intellectual hiccup, you managed to impugn your own integrity.

Enjoy your weekend.


98 posted on 07/06/2012 1:08:06 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
Okay, you never posted the following (Post# 85):

If people took to snacking on fresh fruit and nuts and committed to eating 4-6 small meals a day, the want to eat junk will subside almost immediately.

Gotcha.

I somehow just imagined that you posted it in post# 85. I just made up post# 85. Your post# 85 is all in my mind.

Or maybe you should go read post# 85 and quit calling honest people liberal while you are at it.

99 posted on 07/06/2012 1:43:06 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Eaker; rarestia
If people took to snacking on fresh fruit and nuts and committed to eating 4-6 small meals a day, the want to eat junk will subside almost immediately.

Bull crap. Absolute lie. If it did for you great but to say it will for others because it did for you is total malarkey.

I have been a fitness nut/eating clean since age 18 and have helped a numerous obese people and post on many fitness sites and this is the truth for most people Eaker. If someone is really committed to losing weight they will literally go through withdrawl symptoms from junk food for the first 2-3 weeks..after this the cravings do go away when eating properly. And the proper way to diet is 4-6 small meals per day..it keeps the metabolism fired up all day. I eat every hour.

Want to know the biggest diet myth?? People say to stop eating at 6:00 at night. Worst thing you can do. Best way to lose weight is to eat all the way to bedtime(at a small calorie deficit from you daily maintenance calories). Digestion takes 35-40% of your daily calories. That is why bodybuilders wanting to get "cut/ripped/shredded" for a contest wake themselves up 2-3 times in the middle of the night and eat to keep their metalbolism firing all night.

100 posted on 07/06/2012 3:41:59 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence - Christopher Hitchen)
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