Great idea, but the SAT doesn’t measure the student’s ability to get up on time, go to a place of work on a schedule (school/business), tolerate cranky people (teachers/co-workers), turn in homework, get along with others. In short, the SAT, an excellent measure of intelligence and knowledge at a point in time, doesn’t measure other aspects that are often required for work.
Question: if a certain element of society could NOT EVER pass the SAT test, would they remain in school forever? This SAT approach, perhaps supplemented with subject tests, would be great for many, but not all, students.
Your idea would be welcomed by millions of the 50 million students (US Dept of Education) who are trapped in dangerous urban s*** holes called (public) schools. Please, on a periodical basis, give the test to the teachers also.
Yep! I agree! The government teachers in our godless socialist schools should be required to take the GED every 4 years ( at their expense). Most would fail the math portion. And...The SAT, ACT, and GRE scores of all government teachers should be posted ON-LINE!
Question: if a certain element of society could NOT EVER pass the SAT test, would they remain in school forever? This SAT approach, perhaps supplemented with subject tests, would be great for many, but not all, students.
Passing the GED should be required for all official high school diplomas. Those who attend until their 18th birthday, who did not pass, would be given a certificate of attendance.
As for the SAT and ACT one does not pass or fail these exams. Anyone can take them and they are awarded a score. It would be the employer who would determine what level of performance would be the minimum needed ( in terms of literacy and numeracy) for success on the job.
Great idea, but the SAT doesn’t measure the student’s ability to get up on time, go to a place of work on a schedule (school/business), tolerate cranky people (teachers/co-workers), turn in homework, get along with others. In short, the SAT, an excellent measure of intelligence and knowledge at a point in time, doesn’t measure other aspects that are often required for work.
I bet there is a correlation between high SAT scores and self-discipline.
“Great idea, but the SAT doesn’t measure the student’s ability to get up on time, go to a place of work on a schedule (school/business), tolerate cranky people (teachers/co-workers), turn in homework, get along with others. In short, the SAT, an excellent measure of intelligence and knowledge at a point in time, doesn’t measure other aspects that are often required for work.”
That’s what ENTRY-LEVEL jobs do. Most high schoolers don’t get hired based on SATs, GEDs, or other exams - they get hired if they get their name right on the application and there’s enough left of their face left (after piercings) to recognize them as humanoid (although not always).
If they can do what you say as McDonald’s, then they’ll probably so the same at an accounting job.
A college degree doesn't do that nowadays, either.
When I went to university 30 years ago, I had to sacrifice, struggle, and work myself to exhaustion in order to get an undergraduate degree, and then redoubled my efforts for grad school. But speaking as the mother of a young woman whom just finished working her way through school, I can tell you that a college degree signals NONE of those things any longer.
Don't get me wrong, my daughter is very bright and she works fanatically hard at any job she undertakes. Her bosses and professors always love her. But she was surrounded by classmates who drank, screwed, and partied their way through school. It was four years of sex and vomit. But they got degrees, too. To those kids, a degree meant postponing adulthood for four years.
What does a hard-working, talented person prove by "tolerating" and being forced to "get along" with people who detest their values ... for two soul-destroying decades. Unless they hide their views under a basket, they will be ridiculed, marked down and continually given the short end of the stick. Even in the hard sciences, the student better not open their mouth about anything else, much less AGW methodology, for example.