[DustyMoment]

How do we go about winning, Rush?

Rush, like many people, still believe we have a representative republic in which the control of our nation's leadership can be made peacefully at the ballot box.

I no longer share that opinion. I believe that our only options are for the conservative states to either secede or engage in civil war, the sequel. IMO, our government is irreparably broken, the system is fraught with corruption and changing the faces in Congress or the WH doesn't change the corrupt system they have created.

These are things Rush can't say. His attacks on the SCOTUS are justified. The justices are selected on the basis of political orientation with Roe v. Wade being the benchmark. And, yet, they are supposed to be apolitical and rule strictly on a given law's applicability to established law and the Constitution. Rush, by going after the SCOTUS, is, essentially, shining a light on a fire. Before the ZeroCare ruling, we liked to pretend that the court's decisions were not predicated on political affiliation, but on the rule of law. Given the twists, turns and convolutions that CJ Roberts took to arrive at the majority opinion, there is no longer any pretense that the SCOTUS pays any attention to either established law or applicability to the Constitution, but to political affiliation.

The "whats" and "whys" of Roberts' actions have yet to be revealed and may NEVER be revealed. For now, it is what it is and we have to deal with it.

However, no matter how you slice it, our system is in serious trouble, America is dying before our eyes and our complacency will let it happen.

[Marathoner]

I no longer share that opinion. I believe that our only options are for the conservative states to either secede or engage in civil war, the sequel. IMO, our government is irreparably broken, the system is fraught with corruption and changing the faces in Congress or the WH doesn't change the corrupt system they have created.

Regrettably, I'm coming to the same conclusion. Even if (GOD help us) we manage to boot the big Zero out in November, the fact that the electorate in this country is even capable of electing such a monster bodes ill for the future of the Republic.

[Bobalu]

When Republicans are next in power then that would be the ideal time for a large state, or group of states, to secede.

There would be bloodshed if it was done when dems are in power.

This will happen sometime in the next 50 years no matter what. The country is in a downward socialistic spiral. People will demand a place to escape to.

The new nation would thrive, the old nation would soon collapse and state after state would petition to join the new free nation. The old nation would eventually print money like Weimar Germany and the value of the old dollar would drop to a tiny fraction of what it is now.

Yes, I know it won’t happen...what I fear will happen is some sort of civil war...very bad business that.

[spel_grammer_an_punct_polise]

So-called “Republicans” who are, in fact, all RINOs, do not want to be seen as the “heartless” who just don’t care about the down-trodden.

They vote as they do only to prevent race war, period.

[zeugma]

Rush, like many people, still believe we have a representative republic in which the control of our nation's leadership can be made peacefully at the ballot box.

I no longer share that opinion. I believe that our only options are for the conservative states to either secede or engage in civil war, the sequel. IMO, our government is irreparably broken, the system is fraught with corruption and changing the faces in Congress or the WH doesn't change the corrupt system they have created.

I'm not sure there are enough of us yet.

The basic problem is that as long as  the establishment continues to allow elections to take place as scheduled, people will continue to believe that their vote actually means something. This gives the vast majority all the fig leaf they need to believe they are still free.

Personally, I believe we are further along than the graphic below indicates.