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To: SunkenCiv

hasn’t it been dogma that the welsh are Britons pushed into the mountains by the anglo-saxon invaders?


4 posted on 06/20/2012 5:05:55 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy)
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To: hecht
hasn’t it been dogma that the welsh are Britons pushed into the mountains by the anglo-saxon invaders?

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6 posted on 06/20/2012 5:17:17 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: hecht

Yes, but before that, the Welsh may have been the indigenous Europeans who were on the island at the time the Celts migrated there. Those populations are still present in Europe genetically, although their languages are dead except for Basque.


9 posted on 06/20/2012 5:27:24 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: hecht

True, but it has also been conventional wisdom that the Welsh are Celts that arrived sometime around 500 BC and that there were others there before that that built Stonehenge, which was built around 2500 BC. Turns out the Welsh built Stonehenge.


10 posted on 06/20/2012 5:33:10 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: hecht

Yes, and by the Romans. The legions had to go to the north of Wales to wipe out the last of the (British) Druids and burn down the last of their oak groves. They thus wiped out the remaining religious and political/cultural core standing in their way. Then they turned around and defeated the last united military threat, Queen Boudica’s rebellion, and Britannia became a real Roman province for several hundred years. All that remained of the Celts were the Irish, who as Scots later conquered Scotland, the Picts, and the remnant Britons in the mountain fastnesses of Wales. Even the Romans couldn’t and wouldn’t want to kill everybody. Living slaves to till the new vineyards and serve the new masters’ estates were more valuable than corpses.


39 posted on 06/20/2012 7:57:34 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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