[matt1234]

Governments & advertisers have been appealing to "self"-ishness, and it's costing us our society.

You nailed it. The pervasive message to women is "you can have it all." This, of course, is utter nonsense. Every purveyor of this message is selling something.

[goat granny]

My brother waited until his youngest was 18 before he divorced...enough is enough for some.