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That was exactly his evidence: a lens sees things differently from the human eye. The paintings in question have the effects and perspective of a lens.

I am familiar with one particular work cited by Mr. Hockney (I have seen the actual work--not just pictures--at the Memphis Brooks Museum). Aesthetically, I don't like it as much as a like many of William Bouguereau's works. While it certainly includes a level of extraneous detail not typically found in classical realism, and the perspective would not be inconsistent with a camera obscura, by my understanding Hockney goes further:

  1. He seems to suggest that painters mostly relied upon the camera obscura, rather than it being used as an occasional experiment by a few painters.
  2. Some people who are familiar with the way images are projected can reproduce effects such as foreshortening "accurately" without cameras; I won't quite way "freehand", since the techniques often involve guide lines. Such lines may not appear on a finished work if the design is first rendered as a drawing.
I won't dispute that some 19th-century painters probably used the camera obscura, at least experimentally. I do, however, dispute what I understand to be Hockney's broader claim--that the Classical Realist artists weren't so impressive as they seem, since all they did was trace projections.
82 posted on 06/10/2012 8:12:29 AM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: supercat
"I do, however, dispute what I understand to be Hockney's broader claim--that the Classical Realist artists weren't so impressive as they seem, since all they did was trace projections."

I never got the impression, while reading Hockney's book, that he was denigrating the classical artists at all. He presented the idea that projection was a tool that they used. He then presented his evidence.

Ultimately, a work of art is successful for a wide variety of reasons - the mere presence of extraneous detail isn't helpful. You could project to your heart's content, but if you aren't a good artist (concept, composition, color, execution, etc), you will end up with crap.

83 posted on 06/10/2012 8:39:09 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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