[varmintman]

I mentioned a few of the problems of bird evolution, but there's another one as big if not bigger. There is a gigantic difference between down/insulation feathers and flight feathers i.e. flight feathers actually have structure to provide the strength and rigidity to bear weight.

The standard theory of bird evolution calls for hair to morph into insulation/down feathers, but the question of those down feathers evolving into flight feathers is ignored. Ignored also is the question of how the down feathers morphed into flight feathers ONLY ON THE WINGS WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED!!!! I.E why doesn't the bird have flight feathers all over his whole body??? What the hell kind of mutation is going to change down feathers into flight feathers only on arms and then have arms turn into wings???

That may be the single biggest problem with evoloserism which you could easily point out to some body.

Then again if you wanted to think bats evolved, then you have to claim they evolved twice, i.e. the two orders of bats aren't related...

[gitmo]

I’m familiar with Chiroptera. What’s the other order?