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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Mosquitoes: How did they verify that they would only prey on birds? The article says they preyed on people using the tunnels as shelters during WWII 70 years ago.

Lizards: This article makes claims about their appearance but provides no evidence. In fact, those kinds of large scale changes that quickly mean that the lizard either mated with other lizards or had the genes already.

Tiktaalik: A, B, C.

Dogs can undergo major changes in size, head and body shape, bite strength in one generation. It is called sexual reproduction, not evolution. The species already has the genes -- they aren't mutating. And they aren't changing into cats.

Yes, but with enough stuff in the middle, we can assume there's a path until we define it (unless we refuse to).

You don't have enough stuff, especially when it comes to cellular biochemistry. If you can't build those systems piece by piece intentionally, how on earth can they come about randomly? Science is not the business of assuming, it is the business of testing.

217 posted on 05/31/2012 6:58:24 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

Mosquitoes, lizards, Titkaalik.

I don’t know how the scientists know the mosquitoes used to prey on birds. It’s an article in the London Times quoting two scientists. I don’t have any particular incentive to think they’re making this up. You apparently do.

No, the article in National Geographic doesn’t provide the evidence about the lizards. Nat’l Geo isn’t that kind of magazine. I don’t have any particular incentive to think they or the scientists are making this up. You apparently do.

I’m sure the scientists in both cases have published their evidence somewhere. Go find it, if you’re curious.

Tiktaalik: they didn’t have B. They predicted it would be found between A and C, and it was. Testable prediction, confirmed. What were you saying about glass houses?

I’ve heard the “species already has the genes” argument before. I’m not impressed, because the people making it never try to identify the genes the species has beforehand and thereby predict what changes they will undergo. They just wait until the changes are done and then claim, with no evidence, that the capability was there the whole time. That’d be another fruitful line of investigation for Behe et al., by the way: analyze an animal’s genes and predict what changes it will undergo if it changes its environment. If the genes are already all there, that should be easy, right? As someone once said, do the work.

> And they aren’t changing into cats.

Yeah, nobody claims lizards change, or will change, into cats. Saying such a thing is a telltale sign of complete misunderstanding of how evolution works.

> You don’t have enough stuff,

Sez you.


219 posted on 05/31/2012 11:36:50 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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