Nothing from Europe is worth emulating in the US, and this includes socialist healthcare with its necessary heavy taxation.
At least not in the sense Americans fathom it.
European conservatives are pro-aristocratic, royalists, etc. Their politics are not ours. People, especially the commoners, serfs, peasants, etc have no rights but are rather subjects. That a royalist would wish to take care of a subject by peserving his health fits right in with European conservatism. After all, such people would BELONG to a king or count, and much as cattle are taken care of, you'd be sure to take care of your subjects. Here in the USA, conservatism is entirely different.
It is about our RIGHTS, and more specifically, our NATRUAL RIGHTS. ALL men are born with them. You don't have to be a king, a duke, or a knight to have them. We are equal in them and in and before the law.
Quote: Is medical care a Natural Right? Absolutely not. Natural Rights are yours NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE DOES OR DOES NOT DO. You can’t get medical care without someone voluntarily providing it. Since you have no right to force other people to do anything, you cannot get medical care without the consent of others. You have a Natural Right to try to get medical care, but you do not have a Natural Right to actually get it. If you did, you would also have the right to coerce medical care from others. You have no right to coerce others for anything. Again, no Natural Right requires the consent of another. Medical care requires consent of other people.
Because it won’’t be health care all.
The fact that the Germans (and other Europeans) can’t fathom the argument against mandatory purchase of coverage is clear indication that they do not ‘get’ America at all.
The invocation of multiple socialist concepts throughout this article certainly represents the European view, today. The American expat cafe owner fits right in with the Euro-Socialist view (Solidarity? Where have we heard that before?) and should stay right there and peddle her goods.
For us, the notion that the government should be so deeply entwined in our daily lives conflicts with the very founding principles on which this great nation was built.
Get the damn government out of the way, and the nation will heal itself...healthcare included.
>>Um, “solidarity” is another socialist catchphrase, guys.
In 1980’s Poland, it was an anti-communist catchphrase.
healthcare was introduced in Germany in the 19th century by Otto von Bismarck, who was definitely not a leftistI'm not sure exactly what the word "leftist" meant in Germany in the 1880s but Bismarck did found much of the German Welfare State at that time.
healthcare was introduced in Germany in the 19th century by Otto von Bismarck, who was definitely not a leftistI'm not sure exactly what the word "leftist" meant in Germany in the 1880s but Bismarck did found much of the German Welfare State at that time.
>>> Allowing healthy people to opt out of having health insurance destroys the insurance community and leaves insurers covering only the sick. …>>>
Untrue! Most people buy health insurance when they’re well so that they’ll be covered if they get sick. The above statement is akin to saying that only people whose homes are on fire buy house insurance.
We have a diversity of total racist, amoral retards running our institutions and country. The left and the courts will race bait the nation into an early grave and call it “racial justice for Trayvon” or whatever their latest victim hate bandwagon is based upon.
Seriously, our government is totally abusive to us and has no respect for ethics, freedom, human life or dignity. They have no respect for anything good. I can not think of one area of government control where it does not crush and/or neglect people with power. Lately, they are into sexually molesting kids, the elderly and the handicapped at the airport in the name of stopping Islamic terrorism.
I can see us going from election to election, wiping out healthcare for this group or that group who does not “deserve” it. People would be watching the debates to see whose, child, mom, dad, aunt, uncle, etc. is going to be targeted for death by which candidate. It would be a socialist and libertarian dream come true!
Under their logic, we are obligated to pay for everyone’s housing, food, transportation, anything else that is deemed necessary to live. Foreigners just don’t get it. They don’t know where their logic leads them.
Pardon me, but doesn't the German liberal party refer to itself as "Social Democrats" (Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands, SPD)? The SPD is a full member party of the Party of European Socialists and the Socialist International. It is Germany's oldest political party. It was also one of the first Marxist-influenced parties in the world. The current party platform of the SPD espouses the goal of social democracy (communism lite?), which is seen as a vision of a societal arrangement in which freedom and social justice (antithetical?) are paramount. According to the party platform, freedom, justice, and social solidarity, form the basis of social democracy. The coordinated social market economy should be strengthened, and its output should be distributed fairly. (any of this stuff starting to sound familiar?) The party sees that economic system as necessary in order to ensure the affluence of the entire population. (He must have been on drugs during this lecture...affluence is not equality of outcome) The SPD also tries to protect the society's disadvantaged with a welfare state.
Not every 'S' automatically means socialism."
But in this instance it most assuredly does. Lest we forget Karl Marx was a German who fully understood the use and misuse of language.
Allowing healthy people to opt out of having health insurance destroys the insurance community and leaves insurers covering only the sick. …
Only a German would think that this is a necessary symmetry, to which I reply what happens when healthy people start getting sick and all the money they simplemindedly put into the system has been spent on the "chronically ill" who have coincidentally been too sick to work? (Rather like our Ponzi scheme Social Security)
The other thing the Germans have working for them is their mindset. It is the only country in the world where two people will stand at an intersection at 2:00am, in a driving rain, with no visible traffic for miles, and wait for the light to change. I swear Germans do not need locks, a simple paper tag with the words "öffnen Sie sich nicht" will do, for they are constitutionally unable to color outside the lines! (that's why they are O & 2 in the World Series!)
Regards,
GtG
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/10/upstart-party-making-noise-in-german-politics/
Germany perfected the term “Death Panels”. They can keep their noses out of Obamacare.
Yea the Germans are such bellwether’s of freedom
Does the German healthcare system have tens of thousands of sneaky regulations that redistribute wealth, fundamentally transform the country and provide slush funds for political rewards?
It’s easy to have socialized medicine when you have the U.S., as the only for-profit healthcare economy in the world, funding the global R&D for pharmaceuticals and devices.
Every socialized healthcare system is subsidized by our “evil” for-profit system.
My solution to the healthcare debacle was always: levy duties on healthcare companies for the difference between what they charge U.S. consumers and foreign governmental consumers: U.S. healthcare problem solved.
I really don’t care what Germans think.
Does the German healthcare include abortions and birth control for free? Does it include same pay for all doctors?Does it include death counseling and rationing? Taxes,?Does it attack the Catholic faith in Germany? Did they have to pass it to see what was in it? Does it incl;ude insurance for illegal immigrants?
Does Germany have any idea WTF is in Obamacare?
Because Germans have a history of being subservient and “just following orders”. Ours is a history of “get out of my face and leave me the f... alone!”
I never realized that more than half of all Germans of working age are also on welfare.
So how do the Germans manage that many parasites?