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Meet Allan Hill, the man who lives In DetroitÂ’s abandoned Packard Auto Plant
yahoo.com ^ | Apr 13, 2012 | Matt Hardigree

Posted on 04/14/2012 7:55:46 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse

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To: MachIV

Packard ended production there in 1956, but there were dozens of little companies still operating in the complex until 1997, when the city foreclosed on the property and ordered 87 tenants to leave. Then it was left to rot. The only others left now are a chemical processing company, someone selling exterior lighting, a few squatters now and then, and a lot of wild animals.

http://www.detroitblog.org/?p=1949


21 posted on 04/14/2012 10:06:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Albert Kahn was born in Germany in 1869. When he was 11, his family moved to the United States and settled in Detroit, where the teenager took a job as an architect’s apprentice. In 1902, after working at a number of well-known architectural firms in Detroit, Kahn started his own practice.

While building factories for Packard, the young architect found that swapping reinforced concrete for wood or masonry sped up the construction of manufacturing plants considerably. It also made them sturdier and less combustible. Moreover, reinforced-concrete buildings needed fewer load-bearing walls; this, in turn, freed up floor space for massive industrial equipment. Kahn’s first concrete factory, Packard Shop No. 10, still stands today on East Grand Boulevard in Detroit.


22 posted on 04/14/2012 10:12:32 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Kahn was also Henry Ford’s go-to guy for Ford’s famous Highland Park plant, which introduced the moving assembly line.


23 posted on 04/15/2012 3:00:05 AM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Thanks. Someone else indicated it had been occupied in parcial by other small companies which makes sense. Usually where I’m from, if you can’t sell a property, it becomes more cost effective to tear down a building than to pay mounting property taxes.


24 posted on 04/15/2012 3:23:00 AM PDT by MachIV
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I would have thought if it couldn’t be converted to something else it would have eventually been demolished to save on property taxes.

I don't know if the property taxes would be reduced or not but to demolish all the standing buildings on that site and the removal of same would cost in the millions of dollars.......

I worked for a company on Detroit's east side, the corner of Conner and Charlevoix. On the east side of the street, between Charlevoix and Jefferson is the Chrysler Jefferson assembly plant.

I remember watching the rebuilding and expansion of the plant which also included the removal of the warehouses across the street. Once all of them had been removed, along with all the concrete flooring and driveways, then the environmental clean-up had to begin.

All the soil that the buildings stood on had to be removed due to the oil and chemicals that had run off and leached into the ground over the decades. They had huge excavation trucks constantly digging up and hauling off the dirt, with all the workers forced to wear hazmat suits. Once it was cleaned up sufficiently, they then had to truck in all new dirt before they could start rebuilding. Just the clean up alone had to cost in the tens of millions of dollars alone.

So to answer you question, the cost of demolishing and removing those buildings alone would be cost prohibitive let alone having to also be responsible for the environmental clean up.

25 posted on 04/15/2012 3:41:42 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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To: MachIV
Watch the video again and fast forward to the 5:20 mark. See all those blocks? Those are wooden blocks they used to use as the top surface of the floors in these manufacturing plants, my plant had that type of flooring too.

The reason they used wooden blocks was so that they would absorb all the oil and grease that was constantly dripping from the machinery and parts. That helped to prevent slippery floor surfaces which is typical of concrete floors. Over time, they could simply replace the wooden blocks as needed.

They of course don't use them anymore because of the cleaning machines which have been developed but back then they didn't have such machines.

Another thing that's not available to the average viewer of these manufacturing properties. The production and stamping plants, as my company was, had huge basements underneath their press shops that were called "pits"

These pits were literally ankle deep and higher with oil and scrap metal run-off from the presses that had to periodically be cleaned out by the sanitation department. Real nasty work.......

26 posted on 04/15/2012 4:01:53 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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So in fifty some odd years there’s been no demand that would have caused the factory to be put to some other commercial or redevelopment use? Talk about zero growth.


Remind me, when exactly did the liberals gain control of Detroit?


27 posted on 04/15/2012 5:56:22 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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Willow Run too. They made a lot of B-24’s there.

http://public.fotki.com/Kos/members_photo_galle/willow-run-in-the-1940s/wiilow_run_bomber/77411-a.html


28 posted on 04/15/2012 12:59:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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