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To: SunkenCiv
FWIW, after some additional digging around the web I gather the Scientific Community™ has not reached consensus on WHEN or even IF a mega flood occurred during modern Man's existence; how LARGE it was; that is to say, how WIDESPREAD; how much DESTRUCTION was caused, etc. Most can't even agree that the hundreds of flood "myths" from around the world are worthy of anything more than a cursory yawn. So, just what defines the Pleistocene/Holocene boundary? Is it related? From most accounts the events at the P/H boundary were catastrophic(hence, the boundary); including floods, widespread volcanism, probably magnetic shifts, plate upheavals, and more I'm sure. What if anything triggered these events or was it just time for another planetary disruption?

Being an old salesman I'm far from an expert but based on my observations alone I have an opinion about the state of science and academia generally. To the layman it looks like their sole purpose for being is to discount others' work. Much like lawyers, they expend their energies arguing their cases in academic courtrooms. Full of sound and fury but signifying nothing. They're mostly hacking at the branches in an effort at relevance. Job security.

No offense intended for those few who are pursuing noble causes and genuine science; whomever and wherever they may be.

I entertained notions of significantly revising and extending my remarks then thought, WTH!

32 posted on 04/10/2012 11:45:19 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Myths can be useful, but as they don’t come with dates, it is unusual for them to be useful for dating catastrophic events.

In “Noah’s Flood”, Ryan and Pitman cite an ancient flood myth from the northern Aegean, then claim (without basis) that it must have originated from the Black Sea flood, and that the ancestors of the carriers of that myth had to move, wound up settling on the Aegean, subsequently (and most conveniently) forgetting where the event took place while still remembering the event in some detail.

Yes, the Pleistocene / Holocene boundary has been dated to about 10,500 years ago, IOW, not very far off the time Plato gave for the destruction of Atlantis, a myth that may have begun with Plato rather than having arrived in Greece via Solon’s supposed visit to Egypt.

Yes, it is widely accepted that large floods from glacial meltwater has happened a number of times in human times.

Science is a method, rather than being a body of knowledge. Knowledge increases, and comes from experience as well as the Aristotlian syllogism. Stuff that is disproved is discarded in favor of something else.

IOW, don’t project the acts and attitudes of people who reject the scientific method and the knowledge derived by it onto practitioners and students of the sciences.

The scientific community doesn’t have a trademark after it, but that did help set the tone for your old, tired tirade.


33 posted on 04/10/2012 8:10:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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