[blueplum]

going to another country really isn’t a solution for the average lower to mid middle class family - it’s the same as moving to a town in a state you’ve never been - you will always be an outsider when push comes to shove.

I’d propose that it’s more beneficial to be around Family and close friends when it comes to surviving upheavals. Those in wagontrains that settled the West, for instance, were almost always interrelated families traveling together and then homesteading next to each other as groups. There is safety in numbers. imo jmo

[Dick Vomer]

I've got news for you. Going to another country is the only solution sometimes, because entire families can be put up against he wall. My grandfather came from Mexico after the Christero war with his two sisters as the only survivors of a rather large family/ranch community after the "peace treaty" was signed and the government forgot to tell the troops to quit killing Catholics. . First generation works labor, second generation becomes cops,soldiers or teachers and third generation goes to college.

I'll fight to defend my family but I won't get caught up in defending these POS in our government. The new brown shirts are the TSA,BATF, FBI, DEA, Dept of Ed swat teams and viper teams. They'll gladly kill, maim and destroy you for donuts and their pension. Ask Randy Weaver's wife and son or the children in Waco that were cooked by the BATF, FBI and US Army.