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Zimmerman shouldn’t have confronted Martin. That isn’t in keeping with stand your ground self defense laws, not as I understand them at least. If Martin had confronted Zimmerman first, it would be different but we have evidence that shows this is not the case. Zimmerman had better get a good lawyer I think.

Neighborhood Watch watches the neighborhood not just a house. Soon they’ll be outlawed like community soup kitchens as too dangerous.

If Martin had confronted Zimmerman first, it would be different but we have evidence that shows this is not the case

Who is we? What evidence?

Post a link to this positive evidence.

So, Zimmerman shot the boy before he was attacked?

“but we have evidence that shows this is not the case.”

Really?

We have a FR thread going on with about 500 posts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2862676/posts

Present your evidence...

Here we have Barney Fife with a loaded gun wanting to be a hero.

Then you have a kid walking home from the store with a pop and skittles under his coat, being followed by a this guy. The kid has heard the stories of kidnappings, rape and killings. He doesn’t know this dude, and Barney Fife doesn’t tell the kid who he is! (nor should the kid trust him, if he did!)

What is a 17 year old young man gonna do? What would you have done at 17 with some Chaz Bono lookalike following you around, acting weird? Call for help? Run? What if Chaz tackles you, what would you have done? Maybe try to drive his nose up into his skull?

I don’t think Zimmerman wanted to kill an innocent kid. I bet he is horrified. He wanted to be a Hero. He was trying to protect his neighborhood. The kid was just trying to protect himself from assumed assault.

This isn’t about race. It is about an uneducated, untrained person ignoring the rules and making some deadly mistakes. The cops even told Zimmerman NOT TO FOLLOW the ‘guy’. This is in fact one of the scenerios many law enforcement academies practice with their trainees.

I am sad for both families. This is truly a tragedy.

Zimmerman shouldn’t have confronted Martin. That isn’t in keeping with stand your ground self defense laws, not as I understand them at least. If Martin had confronted Zimmerman first, it would be different but we have evidence that shows this is not the case. Zimmerman had better get a good lawyer I think.

No. There is no evidence that Zimmerman confronted Martin - or rather, no evidence that he initiated a confrontation. Martin's girlfriend recounts that she heard Martin say "Why are you following me?" She then heard the response "What are you doing here?"

Is it really so inconceivable that Martin decided to confront Zimmerman, and that he surprised Zimmerman by doing so? We do know that by the time Zimmerman left his four minute call with the police he said he did not know where "this kid" had gone.

It's fine to make an assumption that Zimmerman started the fight. But it is also possible to believe both that he is guilty, and that there is actually no evidence that proves it.

But I agree he needs a good lawyer. The writing appears to be on the wall.

no matter what, it was not premeditated...it sounds like it was a result of a scuffle...it sounds like it was a tragedy....sounds like the victim was actually on top of the perp fighting him....sounds like the "boy" was well over 6' tall....

you know, forensics will tell us....what was the angle of the shot...how far away...etc...

the truth will out...

but I don't believe for one second that this was a deliberate crime...

I have many reservations about carrying guns, and yes, concealed permit holders...

if a guy has a gun, he's apt to feel a bit too confident and a bit too confrontational....somehow holding a gun makes some feel like big men....its that machismo that is dangerous and the result is this Z guy following this young guy and the horrible outcome...

btw, I just heard on NG that the last 8 burglaries in that neighborhood were done by young black males...

so the table was set....