I guess he trolled over from DU. He can slime his way back... AFTER the viking kitties are done, of course! For what it is worth, we know a couple that were infertile. They were offered IVF but (at the time) knew they wouldn’t conceive (and already spent those tens of thousands) AND wouldn’t selectively kill (abort) any of their children if they did. So, rather than seeing this obstacle to parenthood as a slight... they saw another “door” from God open. They have a nine year old and five year old daughter (adopted from China). Wonderful, fantastic, loving parents that are raising two adored children. A win-win situation for all. Just my two cents.