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Dungy: Gregg Williams’ Redskins may have started Peyton Manning’s neck issues
Yahoo Sports ^ | 3/3/2012 | Doug Farrar

Posted on 03/03/2012 5:03:26 PM PST by GreaterSwiss

By the time the "BountyGate" scandal investigation is over, the only thing former New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams might not have been blamed for is whatever gas prices happen to be at that time. And now that the bounty system he participated in while with the Saints can be traced back to his time as the Washington Redskins' defensive coordinator, facts that previously came to light are now going under the magnifying glass with a much harsher light cast on them.

Last September, Cindy Boren of the Washington Post wrote an article in which ex-Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy put the start of Peyton Manning's longstanding neck injuries and surgeries at a game between the Colts and the Redskins on October 22, 2006. On one play, Manning was given a "high-low" hit by defensive linemen Andre Carter and Phillip Daniels. Those types of hits, in which two defensive players aim for different halves of an offensive player's body, are among the most dangerous in football.

The guy wouldn't let go of my head," Manning said after the game of Daniels, who was fined $5,000 by the NFL for the hit. "I looked at my helmet to see if my head was in it."

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To: NotSoFreeStater

Lets not forget the Colorado Avalanche - Detroit Red Wings Rivalry. That is when Claude Lemieux put Kris Draper’s face into the metal stantion holding the glass. This rivalry was so hated at one time there was two major fights which included both goaltenders from each team. One was Dominic Hasek and the other was Mike Vernon against Patrick Roy.

The next time Lemieux saw the Red Wings in Detroit, Darren McCarty kicked the living crap out of Lemieux. Lemieux went into a turtle shell so he could not his face bloody, lose some teeth and who knows what other injuries he was going to obtain. That fight was right off the opening faceoff.


21 posted on 03/03/2012 6:28:31 PM PST by Eric Roelfsema
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To: GreaterSwiss

Here is the play in 2006. It looks pretty deliberate and coordinated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBxHse5s74&feature=youtube_gdata_player


22 posted on 03/03/2012 6:28:43 PM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: FlyVet

Chief!


23 posted on 03/03/2012 6:44:13 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: FlyVet

I also remember that game of which you speak - when Parrish took our Laimbeer. It was, of course, in retaliation for Laimbeer practically decapitating Larry Bird in the preceeding playoff game. What goes around, comes around.


24 posted on 03/03/2012 7:00:05 PM PST by WesG (Without geometry, life is pointless.....)
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To: NonValueAdded
You can see the infamous play at 3:15 of this video, followed by Bird and Laimbeer being ejected from the game. Heh heh. Those were the days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7ZKBKIMEWY

Ask no quarter, and give none.

25 posted on 03/03/2012 7:08:59 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Eric Roelfsema
And to top it off, McCarty scored the winning goal in overtime in a comeback win.

That was the turning point that turned the Wings from playoff chokers into actual Stanley Cup contenders and winners for the first time in 42 years.

And for the record, I'm not the real McCarty.

26 posted on 03/03/2012 7:10:25 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: TexasSecede79366

A high-low tackle is assault with an intent to maim. Do this to someone not as strong as Manning and you can kill him.


27 posted on 03/03/2012 7:10:34 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: TexasSecede79366

And Jack Lambert was a moron. Can we watch a sport that doesn’t kill people?

I’m guessing you think war is fun and games too.

There is a difference between playing a game and purposely trying to go out and try and make someone never walk again.


28 posted on 03/03/2012 7:11:16 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: FlyVet

Unfortunately it’s not just sports where the mentality “whatever it takes” has taken hold in our society.


29 posted on 03/03/2012 7:13:09 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: GreaterSwiss

There is a big difference between a clean, hard, but fair hit and one designed to injure someone. Remember, even on a sports field, battery is still against the law.


30 posted on 03/03/2012 7:13:50 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Almondjoy

True. I agree. But in sports, where do you draw the line? In sports, those on the receiving end can play it to their advantage as well. For instance, a linebacker can drive in for a perfectly clean hit. But, a quarterback can then duck his head, and take a shoulder pad to the helmet, at a crucial time in the game. If said quarterback is skilled at his deception, he can draw a 15 yard penalty with ease, the difference between winning and losing. In basketball, it is very common for a skilled defensive player to draw fouls. He only needs to be willing to take the hit. It works both ways.


31 posted on 03/03/2012 7:22:27 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: TMA62

Who won the game?


32 posted on 03/03/2012 7:25:30 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: FlyVet

I was able to download Game 7 of the last back to back Laker win during the Riley era. Rodman was so erratic, but gosh, he was full of energy and he took so many crazy shots in the last quarter that he was not supposed to take.

The face of Chuck Daly in the last 2 minutes when Rodman still shot the ball even when Dumars was wide open was priceless.


33 posted on 03/03/2012 7:48:04 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: rabidralph

Colts won 36-22.


34 posted on 03/03/2012 7:57:28 PM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: TMA62

Dang!


35 posted on 03/03/2012 8:17:26 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: FlyVet

“I remember when Robert Parrish slapped Bill Laimbeer to the floor in front of God and everybody, and the refs didn’t call a foul. Things even out. “


Aaah,The Chief. Those were the days,my friend etc.


36 posted on 03/03/2012 8:23:40 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: TMA62
I'd be interested to hear Peyton's opinion. After all, he does have a big juicy SB ring on his finger.

No excuse though for going all Conrad Dobler on a player. High/low tackles are very dirty IMHO, if deliberate. Same as helmet to helmet.

37 posted on 03/03/2012 8:33:23 PM PST by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: max americana
One thing I loved about Chuck Daly, was the look on his face. He didn't care if the Pistons were 30 points ahead, he looked like the world was coming to an end. Push, push, push. That's how he got such a wildly-different cast of characters to win, but unfortunately, that's probably why he died so young. Type A to the max. But, Rodman said Daly was like a father to him. He didn't really turn into a nut case until he left the Pistons.

Teams had such an individual personality back then, heroes and villains. Now, not so much.

38 posted on 03/03/2012 8:51:29 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: rwilson99

To intentionaly aim for, permanent harm over a game? Greg Williams needs to be gone.There is no come back.


39 posted on 03/03/2012 8:52:54 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver

I object! Racist!!!! Racist to use the term “Redskins”. This deeply offends me and I demand an apology.

Stop the use of the term Redskins and Blackhawks and North Dakota Sioux.

Why don’t we hear more about this on the news instead?


40 posted on 03/04/2012 5:55:40 AM PST by DaveA37
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