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To: DiogenesLamp

Couple of things:

John Yinger is an Economist.

“John Yinger is Trustee Professor of Public Administration and Economics; he also directs the Education Finance and Accountability Program”

Charles E Rice is not the president of Notre Dame, just a retired professor. He does not argue for two citizen parent. He wants Congress to investigate. He says Obama may be eligible.

Alexander Porter Morse. 1904? He is talking only about children born overseas. He does not explicitly support the two parent rule in America:

“It remains to be decided whether a child of domiciled Chinese parents, born in the United States, is eligible”

Ramsey? Prior to the 14th Amendment. Superseded.

Your Breckinridge Long essay? You understand he worked for Woodrow Wilson and this is a political hit piece on Charles Evans Hughes who in 1916 was running against Wilson?

George Collins? A tiny snippet from a losing lawyer embedded in a long news article? Really?

The “Book from Harvard”? Out of context snips on a birther website in a essay written by “Linda Melin, citizen researcher”?

Solum is a good article but makes no stand either way. His paper is a discussion on the proper way to interpret Constitutional language to determine original intent.


440 posted on 02/21/2012 3:05:34 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196
John Yinger is an Economist.

Still, a college Professor that knows how to research and write. I see you make only an Ad hominem attack, and nothing on the merits of his argument.

Charles E Rice is not the president of Notre Dame, just a retired professor. He does not argue for two citizen parent. He wants Congress to investigate. He says Obama may be eligible.

Oh yes, people who think he is eligible WANT an investigation. Obviously there is nothing there, so we MUST investigate! In any case he *IS* a legal scholar. You said there were none.

Alexander Porter Morse. 1904? He is talking only about children born overseas. He does not explicitly support the two parent rule in America:

I'm beginning to think this guy is Blade Bryan, or one of the other Fogblows. No way can someone read that stuff that fast. His point is still valid. It requires Citizen Parents to make a citizen child. Do your Dogs have Kittens?

Ramsey? Prior to the 14th Amendment. Superseded.

Only under the THIRD interpretation of Wong Kim Ark. (You know, the simple minded stupid interpretation that gives us "Anchor Babies.") According to the Debates on the 14th amendment by the Congress that passed it, Dr. David Ramsey is exactly spot on. While i'm thinking about it, It is quite likely possible to see the Debates in the State legislatures regarding the meaning and intent of the 14th amendment. Another avenue of research!

Your Breckinridge Long essay? You understand he worked for Woodrow Wilson and this is a political hit piece on Charles Evans Hughes who in 1916 was running against Wilson?

Yes, his understanding of the law is completely compromised because he was a Wilson Supporter. Ad Hominem Attack. Can't you do a Non-Fallacy argument? Again, a dismissal without review of the merits of his argument.

George Collins? A tiny snippet from a losing lawyer embedded in a long news article? Really?

Now see, this is where you are telling on yourself. You came on this website pretending to be someone who was objective, and interested in debating the issue, yet you happen to know that extremely esoteric piece of information about George Collins. As I have mentioned, the only people researching this stuff are the good guys, (us) and the bad guys. (Fogblows.) Tell me again what you think about Roe v Wade?

The “Book from Harvard”? Out of context snips on a birther website in a essay written by “Linda Melin, citizen researcher”?

Good point. Would you like to see the book page that that quote came from? I can't post it because it's a violation of the terms of service used to obtain it, but I have a copy of it. :) I'll have to check to see if I can obtain the rights to reprint it.

Solum is a good article but makes no stand either way. His paper is a discussion on the proper way to interpret Constitutional language to determine original intent.

Of COURSE you don't read anything! Let me try and focus your attention on the SALIENT point in his Article.

“What was the original public meaning of the phrase that establishes the eligibility for the office of President of the United States? There is general agreement on the core of its meaning. Anyone born on American soil whose parents are citizens of the United States is a ‘natural born citizen.’”

You obviously aren't blade bryan. His attacks were more focused and directed. Your's are all over the place, and weak. You make up for in VOLUME what you lack in intellect.

459 posted on 02/21/2012 4:39:27 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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