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To: ransomnote
You know nothing of epidemiology and radiation biology. If you did, you'd know that there are documented acute radiation effects that lead to fatality. They have been documented. If you knew this you could name names. You didn't because you didn't know those facts. The trouble for you is, none of them are members of the public harmed by nuclear power plants. If there had been any you should be able to name names. You can't, because there has never been a verifiable, documented case of a member of the public being harmed by radiation from a nuclear plant in this country or anywhere employing LWR technology. Not one. Zero.

You also know nothing of nuclear technology. Chornobil is not a valid example because its design and physics is totally different from anything used in Western countries. In fact, it is more of a plutonium production design, which has a dual purpose for electricity production. It has no containment structure. It has a positive reactivity feedback over part of its operating regime. LWR designs are completely different. There is always containment, and there is always negative power-reactivity feedback over the entire operating range.

John Gofman, eh? Now I see the problem. You're using debunked sources. Gofman has been thoroughly discredited in the radiation science community. Depending on Gofman for factual information is like going to Bill Clinton for guidance on sexual morality.

25 posted on 02/11/2012 1:52:09 PM PST by chimera
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To: chimera

You have fallen back on nuke pimp strategy - once again you limit death and illness to ARS. Deaths and illness from ARS occur rapidly - massive amounts of death and debility set in slowly as a result of exposure to radiation. Oh how the nuke industry wishes the public would forget about the slow, grinding debility and death, still births, early dementia, genetic damage resulting from radiation contamination that doesn’t happen right away. Note the further attempts you use to limit the scope of damage - you specify ‘member of the public’ to avoid including people like the military guy who was pinned to the ceiling (oh yeah that was a fatality) by an rod ejected from the core) and again narrow it to LWR technology. So Downwinders are out, eh? Radiation has and will continue to cause fatalities in this country and others. There is no basis other than public relations for you to attempt to limit this discussion to a specific sub category of person (public - not military), speed of illness/fatality onset (ARS) or specific technology (LWR).

You just haven’t been paying attention to your peer nuke pimps regarding Chernobyl. They were on FR insisting that there could be no comparison between Fukushima and Chernobyl because *GASP* Chernobyl didn’t have a containment structure. These pimps therefore declared that melt through was impossible in Fukushima and called anyone concerned by events unfolding there ‘hysterical’ and ‘fear monger’. Your peer pimps went silent about the ‘can’t happen in Japan (because Japan uses containment structure, more modern design etc.) when it was FINALLY revealed that melt-through had occurred on all three reactors. So this idea that newer design and containment structures create safety is a joke because the Soviets had many reactors without containment structures and they lost ONE. Fukushima lost at least three and there are rumors about others that the Japanese would rather we not think about. It’s not the technology - it’s the hubris, incompetent management and the use of radioactive fuel to boil water.

I LOVE how John Gofman still can make a nuke pimp cry! He has never been discredited - for his nuclear work (discovering radioactive isotopes), his breast cancer work, or his pioneering work in LDL cholesterol and it’s effects on human health. The National Academy of Sciences reviewed his work and...to the dismay of the bullying nuke industry...supported it, even at a time when the NRC and US government was stripping researchers of labs and funds. No - his valid research will never go away. Comparing ‘the father of plutonium’ to Bill Clinton - you really are hurtin’! Bwahahahaha!!!


28 posted on 02/11/2012 2:28:01 PM PST by ransomnote
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