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Vanity: In polls, what about electoral college?
Drudge ^ | 2/3/12 | raccoonradio

Posted on 02/03/2012 6:35:28 AM PST by raccoonradio

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To: csmusaret

True story: The Bee Gees had never been to the Bay State but liked the sound of the word/place name they had heard ABOUT. And that’s why the lights...all went out...in Massachusetts...


41 posted on 02/03/2012 10:20:31 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Longbow1969

Very good point, there. The Left though would rather make it a purely popular vote—they don’t want another Gore scenario.
But yes, popular vote winner likely wins the EV too and indeed the ‘00 election was razor close.

1968 was razor close too
Nixon R 31,783,783
Humphrey D 31,271,839
Wallace Amer. Independent 9,901,118

States won: Nixon 32, Humphrey 15, Wallace 5 (in the
SouthEast)
Nixon 43.4 per cent
Humph. 42.7 per cent
Wallace 13.5 %
One faithless elector from NC voted for Wallace not Nixon

Total electoral votes:
Nixon 301
Humph. 191
Wallace 46

It didn’t seem close if you look at elec. votes, but note
how close it was in popular vote. What if Wallace were
not in the race? Anyway, pop. vote margin win by about
500,000 or so for Nixon. Close.


42 posted on 02/03/2012 10:26:42 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
'68 county map--Red, Nixon; blue, Humphrey; green, Wallace


43 posted on 02/03/2012 10:30:21 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Orastam said:
>>he must be the president of the Union, not just a majority of Americans.
Libs in gereral have a problem with federalism

Right you are.

fieldmarshaldj:
Indeed, re: Tenn. (Gore really from D.C.)

>>when he held his “victory party” outside here in Nashville’s downtown, we had a rare November thunderstorm that evening.

Ah. In 05 I spent a day or so in Nashville area and walked around the general area of the Capitol bldg—Jackon and Johnson monuments, etc. I thought this was where they all gathered for what was to be the Gore victory party (in 04, a big crowd gathered in Boston for what was to be Kerry’s
victory party, complete with a broadcast by then-Air America talker Al Franken. An article from CNS News
Online: “Kerry party turns to tears, bitterness”...

Wikipedia entry on Tenn.: “In the 2000 presidential election, Vice President Al Gore, a former U.S. Senator from Tennessee, failed to carry his home state (sic; as you say, he was more from D.C.), an unusual occurrence”.
W won it 51 to 47 per cent.


44 posted on 02/03/2012 10:38:02 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Flip Massachusetts (could happen) and your map is 269-269. Throw in Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan and Colorado and it could be interesting. If the Electoral College cannot decide, the House selects the president, each STATE delegation getting exactly one vote.


45 posted on 02/03/2012 12:04:25 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: raccoonradio

One of the reason they want a national popular vote is because they want to nationalize vote fraud. Vote fraud is most prevalent in states the Democrats are likely to carry anyway, so another 2000 votes in a ballot box in Philadelphia do not cancel votes cast in New Hampshire or Alabama. With a national popular vote, they would.


46 posted on 02/03/2012 12:08:11 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: stylin19a

The compact only applies, as I understand it, if it is adopted by enough states such that their total electoral votes constitute a majority of the electoral college. Hasn’t happened yet.


47 posted on 02/03/2012 12:18:14 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

you’re exactly right. thanks for cleaning that up for us.


48 posted on 02/03/2012 12:40:56 PM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: raccoonradio
The "victory rally" for Gore was held at the War Memorial Plaza, which is just south (below) the state capitol building.

At the present time, it is infested by "Occupy Nashville" vermin round the clock, for whom are being protected by an ultraliberal Democrat federal judge. State legislators are working to get a bill through to clean the scum off the plaza.

49 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:39 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Except Willard won’t win MA. If McCain couldn’t carry those other states, Willard certainly won’t.


50 posted on 02/04/2012 12:01:53 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I can’t fathom why Fred Thompson is pimping this. It is precisely what the Founding Fathers wanted to guard against... that being direct democracy. Voter fraud in the cities would reach immense proportions if it were to be enacted.


51 posted on 02/04/2012 12:04:24 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

And never will...


52 posted on 02/04/2012 3:39:43 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; raccoonradio

Romney can’t win MA. I speculate he could crack into the low 40’s but that’s it. I mean the dude didn’t run for reelection cause he was gonna lose even if he stayed the RINO course (he wanted to move right to run for President), and even to Deval Patrick!

I don’t see why Romney would do any worse than the last RINO, McPain, and McPain would win if they redid that election today. Obama’s unpopularity and the poor economy means any Republican not named Ron Paul COULD win.

He’d have a leg up in New Hampshire and I’ve seen a poll where he lead Obama in his original home state, Michigan where his daddy was Governor. I’m not so sure why the GOP shouldn’t be favored in lily white Iowa either.

This will be close a election unless someone falls on their face.


53 posted on 02/04/2012 3:59:59 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Agreed. NH doesn’t have many EVs but can be part of a bunch of smaller (in pop.) states that could be added up for
a GOP victory


54 posted on 02/04/2012 8:22:08 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Very good point. Calif., Penn. (voter intimidation in Philly
in ‘08, while I think of it). Have illegal aliens vote,
or union members going to the polling place and giving the
name and address of someone who recently died (see the
James O’Keefe experiment in N.H.). Here in the Bay State
one could peruse the obituaries of your home town and give
the address and name of someone who just passed on but hadn’t been removed from the rolls yet. If it’s someone fairly obscure, you could get away with it. Again see what happened
in N.H. (in one or two cases though someone did recognize
the name)


55 posted on 02/04/2012 8:30:18 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Impy; Lonesome in Massachussets; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; randita; Sun

Obviously Romney can’t win MA. He would run marginally better than other Republicans there, but that won’t do us any good.

For now, we need to focus on preventing Romney from winning a majority of delegates. I don’t think that Newt Gingrich can do that alone. Also, contrary to conventional wisdom, Rick Santorum isn’t siphoning a lot of votes away from Gingrich. Most of his votes come from people who find both Romney and Gingrich unacceptable.


56 posted on 02/04/2012 8:47:19 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: raccoonradio

I live in Boxboro, population about 5,000. The odds that that someone at the poll knows the deceased are high.


57 posted on 02/04/2012 8:54:11 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

“Earth Pimps” PING!


58 posted on 02/04/2012 9:31:12 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I now live in Beverly, pop. 38,000 or so, but grew up in Nahant with about 3,900 people. Same case—people in Nahant
would have known I was pulling a fast one.


59 posted on 02/05/2012 3:31:27 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks raccoonradio.


60 posted on 02/05/2012 9:58:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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