[Wuli]

Your whole problem (embeded in all your arguments in your latest NPV rant/response) is the assumption, erroneous assumption, that for the good of the nation, any methodology employing the electoral college votes should be rigged so that the outcome of the electoral college vote will default to the same as the outcome of “national popular vote”.

But, it is neither the purpose of the electoral college, nor is it necessarily a good purpose that “national popular vote”, independently or by rigging the electoral college vote to mirror it, determine the election of the President of the United States.

The very essence, the Constitutional intent, of the electoral college is to prevent “national popular vote” on its own, all by itself, from determining the outcome. The history of the writing of the electoral college into the Constitution is very clear that one of it’s purposes is so that “popular election”, nationally, is not the method we have that determines the selection of the President.

Pure democracy (which we are not) is all about your beloved “one man one vote”, but our republic (government by representatives/representation), any study of our congressional districts and their varying sizes of population will show you, does not enshrine that concept. The “one man one vote” concept, in our nation, is manifested ONLY (1) within your own voting district (your vote IN YOUR DISTRICT is as great as any other vote IN YOUR DISTRICT), (2) at the level of the represenatives in the House of Representatives (which amounts to “one vote” for each district) and in an equal number of votes for each state in the Senate (with “equal votes” at least not giving greater advantage than “one vote”). So our REPRESENTATIVES in government, whether they represent a small district or a large district (they are not all equal in size or in population) or whether they represent a small state or a large state, the weight of their own individual vote (the House) or their state (in the Senate) is equal. That is your representives vote, not your vote. Your vote may be equal to all other votes, in your district, but when your representative sits in congress, their one vote may be the “representative” vote of a more populous, or a less populous district, state than the next representative, but they each only have only “one vote”.

And, the electoral college system enshrines that recognition that we are not a pure democracy (”O.K., everyone hold up your hands”), we are a republic, and the selection of the chief executive is not a method of pure democracy (one man one vote), it is the method of a republic, representing the voting selection of the places (districts or states) of the nation; regardless of what “national popular” vote count it represents.

The electoral college votes, whether awarded by the state as “winner take all” or proportionally allocated, is in it’s summation, the places that represent “the nation”, and the winner, by whichever of those two methodologies is acceptable (I prefer the later) has collected a win in more places of the country, and that is always a better, a clearer represenation of a majority of “the nation” whether or not it happens to sum to “national popular vote” majority.

This system cannot, Constitutionally, be rigged, by state’s legislative fiat, to defeat its own Constitutional purpose.

In order for the nation to adopt “national popular vote” as the methodology by which the chief executive is chosen, the Constitution would have to be amended to mandate it and abolish the electoral college system. The NPV agenda promoters know that is an unattainable goal, so they have attempted an end run around it. It will not succeed in the courts.

[mvymvy]

Prior to arriving at the eventual wording of section 1 of Article II, the Constitutional Convention specifically voted against a number of different methods for selecting the President, including ● having state legislatures choose the President, ● having governors choose the President, and ● a national popular vote. After these (and other) methods were debated and rejected, the Constitutional Convention decided to leave the entire matter to the states. Section 1 of Article II of the U.S. Constitution-- "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . ." The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as "plenary" and "exclusive." The constitution does not prohibit any of the methods that were debated and rejected. Indeed, a majority of the states appointed their presidential electors using two of the rejected methods in the nation's first presidential election in 1789 (i.e., appointment by the legislature and by the governor and his cabinet). Presidential electors were appointed by state legislatures for almost a century. Most Americans understand the current system is "rigged." Voters want to know, that even if they were on the losing side, their vote actually was directly and equally counted and mattered to their candidate. Most Americans think it's wrong for the candidate with the most popular votes to lose. We don't allow this in any other election in our representative republic. Most Americans don't appreciate being politically irrelevant to presidential candidates during elections and between elections. More than 2/3rds of the states and people have been just spectators to the presidential elections. That’s more than 85 million voters. Policies important to the citizens of ‘flyover’ states are not as highly prioritized as policies important to ‘battleground’ states when it comes to governing. States have the responsibility and power to make all of their voters relevant in every presidential election and beyond. National Popular Vote has NOTHING TO DO with pure democracy. Pure democracy is a form of government in which people vote on policy initiatives directly. With National Popular Vote, the United States would still be a representative democracy, in which citizens continue to elect the President by a majority of Electoral College votes, to represent us and conduct the business of government in the periods between elections.