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Warning: R22 Freon shortage coming...thanks to EPA
Insurance News Net ^ | 01/04/12 | Federal Information & News Dispatch, Inc.

Posted on 01/27/2012 6:18:40 PM PST by A.Hun

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To: BobL
I just wonder how many elderly people will now die of heat stroke due to the inability to service their air conditioners.

That is a real concern. The elderly are hurting the worst for money right now....

41 posted on 01/27/2012 7:30:23 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Minorities, elderly, and children hit hardest. And this time it’s not a joke. Minorities are more likely to live in the large urban heat islands in older buildings, the elderly are more likely to live in older homes, and the elderly and children are more susceptible to heat.

People are going to die come summer because of this insanity by the obastard administration.


42 posted on 01/27/2012 7:32:42 PM PST by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: A.Hun

IIRC this whole damned thing is a scam from back at the git-go in the sixties I believe as nobody knew what the stratospheric ozone condition was supposed to be, but the environmentalists assumed it was taking a hit from something, and came up with the HCFC theory.

That’s as I recall it. Hair spray, A/C Freon, refrigerators, Propellants of anykind with HCFC’s, Paint in spray cans at the time, etc. became evil as asbestos, lead, and mercury.


43 posted on 01/27/2012 7:32:54 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: cva66snipe
I'll be calling him when the unit finally goes

That's the best advice I can give you...go with a contractor you or your acquaintances have a history with.

44 posted on 01/27/2012 7:33:10 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

ahh. I see. Yes I am in the field of ac, but in IN the field. Dispatch/office mgmt, and hubby is HVAC/R tech for 30 years now LOL. Thanks for the info.


45 posted on 01/27/2012 7:35:04 PM PST by wombtotomb
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To: Sawdring

Not if you have an R-22 system.


46 posted on 01/27/2012 7:35:21 PM PST by Riptides
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To: rockinqsranch

The “ozone depletion” argument is as big a scam as AGW. It has been thoroughly debunked but we are still suffering the consequences.

The EPA is totally out of control.


47 posted on 01/27/2012 7:35:27 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Our Co. Was paying $166./30 lb. Drum

Monday the price jumped to $280/


48 posted on 01/27/2012 7:35:34 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: A.Hun

BTTT.


49 posted on 01/27/2012 7:38:24 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: wombtotomb

Goodman can use R-22 or R410-A


50 posted on 01/27/2012 7:40:33 PM PST by Riptides
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I have a half a tank of R-22 I am trying to get rid of. Can I sell it on Craigslist.

Ditto the question. Is it legal to sell if we have some?

51 posted on 01/27/2012 7:40:48 PM PST by Gideon7
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To: Vinnie

I’m hearing pricing as high as 380.00 a drum.....

We’ll know better next week maybe.


52 posted on 01/27/2012 7:40:54 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

If I have too I’ll go with two window units. I have about 1200 sq ft too cool and could easilly get by cooling 800. The biggie of course is it cost more on the electric bill usually to go that route. The furnace is electric so no problem on that end.


53 posted on 01/27/2012 7:42:31 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Gideon7

I wouldn’t. I think you have to have an EPA certification to buy or sell it. The mark of the beast it is!


54 posted on 01/27/2012 7:42:43 PM PST by wombtotomb
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To: Vinnie

Gemaire and Johnstone Supply are selling single jugs of R-22 for $375 as of this afternoon in South Florida.


55 posted on 01/27/2012 7:43:13 PM PST by Riptides
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To: wombtotomb
Thanks for the info.

You're welcome..I've got 37 years in it myself.

56 posted on 01/27/2012 7:44:21 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: cva66snipe

Check the energy ratings on the new units. Some of them are amazing. Your electric bills could go DOWN if you have an older unit, small house and energy efficient window units. Damn, we are gonna go out of business :(


57 posted on 01/27/2012 7:44:26 PM PST by wombtotomb
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To: wombtotomb; Gideon7

You have to be licensed to buy it, not sell it.

The rules wouldn’t apply to an individual selling a small amount anyway.


58 posted on 01/27/2012 7:48:08 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Riptides

Holy smokes! Thats awful! It was like 145.00 a couple weeks ago. I was beating them up to get it under 150 and I did LOL. Holy moly, I remember when it was 3 bucks a lb!

Gold per oz, Freon per oz. Follow the money and see who has it for sale. Find out the ticker symbols if there are any on the market and see if Al Gore or Pelosi et al have any “investments” in “blind trusts” that are gonna make them a killing on this. Probably Soros too.

Not gonna be good for business. Not at all....


59 posted on 01/27/2012 7:49:18 PM PST by wombtotomb
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To: wombtotomb

You are correct. I am a wholesaler.
Last Friday single drums were selling for $145.
On Monday they went up to $189 per drum.
By mid-week to $300.
Today it is $375-$378 per single drum.
Service rates have spiked to $60-$70 per pound.
By next week it could easily climb to $400 per single drum of imported R-22, domestic R-22 is even higher.


60 posted on 01/27/2012 7:57:49 PM PST by Riptides
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