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To: terycarl; Loyal Sedition; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
That having been said, you cannot renounce your baptism and luckily for you, the fact that you might deny Christ means nothing.

OH?

So *Once saved, always saved* (OSAS) is mocked and derided, but *Once Catholic, always Catholic* (OCAC) isn't?

So God cannot seal us until the day of redemption with the Holy Spirit, but the Catholic church can seal us into Catholicism forever with water baptism?

So *Once Catholic, always Catholic* can hold even if we *deny Christ*, but the main argument against OSAS is that we can't claim that because we don't know if we're ever going to deny Christ at some unknown date in the future?

So the Catholic church can do what God Himself cannot do, leave an indelible mark or seal on someone's soul and spirit?

What CHUTZPAH!!!!

Your baptism was not imposed on you, it was a priceless gift to you...say thanks

On the contrary, water baptism does nothing for the soul

You want to talk gift? This is what God has to say....

Ephesians 2:4-10 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

39 posted on 01/16/2012 9:29:46 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"...we can't claim that because we don't know if we're ever going to deny Christ at some unknown date in the future?"

I've heard this before.

It is why doing the work of God is so important.So that our minds begin to be transformed...thus...2 Timothy 1:7 - For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

No-one who has been GIVEN a sound mind will then deny the very person who gave it to them.It would be proof they never took hold of this gift to begin with.

40 posted on 01/16/2012 10:05:11 PM PST by mitch5501 (It's high time I changed this stupid tagline!)
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To: metmom
>>So *Once saved, always saved* (OSAS) is mocked and derided, but *Once Catholic, always Catholic* (OCAC) isn't?<<

The contradictions we learn of are astounding.

43 posted on 01/17/2012 4:52:04 AM PST by CynicalBear
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