Farrar Motion to dismiss by Obama is denied

3Jan2012 | MICHAEL M. MALIHI, Judge

[hoosiermama]

the = think

[hoosiermama]

Trying to spread the word that it was covered on FOX...Can’t find a suitable thread or list.

(Can
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[STARWISE]

Check your pings .. ;)

[hoosiermama]

Everything is slow here....By the time I typed and got posts posted a couple more pings show up...LOL AAAARGH

COuldn’t quite believe it on FOX, but when I read the original post here it sounds almost like he read it off of FR.

Let’s see if this one will post or double post....

[Kenny Bunk]

Now don't you-all be forgetting that this the STATE of GA, asking the STATE of HI to fork over some records.

Think of it as a paperwork extradition case. Those sun-bronzed surfers out there in the Pacific can and no doubt will take their own sweet time in fulfilling that request.

Step one for the HIDOH: seek relief (or at least a "clarification") from the subpoena in their own state courts.
Step 2: Hire a GA attorney to fight the subpoena on the grounds that "They already released the info, as every MSM reporter knows.
Step 3: HI releases the same "Abstract of Data on File" they gave the WH, claiming that is sufficient.

Solution: In Bill Ayer's fascinating book, "Dreams of My FAther," it is admitted or claimed that (a)that The Anointed of Allah was fathered by a citizen of the UK (or Kenya.) And (b)in this book, sort of an American "Mein Kampf," it is also claimed that the Mombasa MF was a dual citizen.

These two admissions, INMHO, are ample grounds to remove the man from the ballot. Again, IMHO, the way to flush this into the right courts is to make BHO, Jr. the PLAINTIFF. Not the DEFENDANT. The way to do that is for the GA authorities to simply go ahead and take him off the ballot. By claiming he is ineligible, they need not even count write-ins. IMHO, that would be a legitimate use of their authority under the Constitution of the State of Georgia.

[hoosiermama]

My dad practiced law for over fifty years and clerked in the Federal Court system after graduating at the top of his class. We keep him informed on what's happening. When we discussed the HI vs GA issue, he stated that the judge in GA can and has the authority to hold the director of the HIDOH in contempt of court and order her held in jail until the subpoena is fulfilled.

Note she is waiting to the very day, the very last moment it is scheduled to fulfill the order....It won't set too well with the judge is his opinion. Orley will no doubt point out to the judge that not only did they not give her time to examine or have the material examined, but they also did not allow her the travel time she needs to appear in GA.

[bitt]

see # 125

“Again, IMHO, the way to flush this into the right courts is to make BHO, Jr. the PLAINTIFF. Not the DEFENDANT. The way to do that is for the GA authorities to simply go ahead and take him off the ballot. By claiming he is ineligible, they need not even count write-ins. IMHO, that would be a legitimate use of their authority under the Constitution of the State of Georgia. “

assuming we could find a SOS who’d do this....how do you like this??

[hoosiermama]

IOW make HIM prove he is eligible.....I like that
But don't know if it would work.

OTOH putting the head of HIDOH in jail would certainly make the MSM and cause a lot of doubt in the populous.

[Clinging Bitterly]

btrl

[bluecat6]

Exactly.

BHO II was turned over to the grandparents at this point. I just do not see how they take responsibility for this child without have issues of guardianship and citizenship well defined.

BHO Sr. was probably not just there for a ‘drive-by’. He may have been legally needed. One of the methods of legally ‘anulling’ an Indonesian-recognized adoption is for the ‘original father’ to come forth and re-claim his child. If that were the case, and assuming the Grandparents wanted him to be a at least have Dual or Multi-US citizenship at the end of the process may have been to do this:

1. The parental rights of Lolo Soetoro (as adopted or step father) are terminated by BHO Sr. legally taking sole guardianship of BHO II. Indonesia recognizes the ‘reclaiming’ and terminates - legally - Lolo (and possibly SAD/S) parental responsibilities. Now, the slate is clean in Indonesia. BHO II would not be an Indonesian citizen at this point.
2. At this point BHO II would be under the sole legal guardianship of BHO Sr. and is likely legally only a UK citizen.
3. BHO Sr. is just a conduit. So the next action is to transfer guardianship to the Grandparents (or some indicate they are convinced it was a Catholic refugee function). So BHO Sr. has to hang around Hawaii till that is done.

This is all theory - admittedly. But something happened in 1971 that likely affected BHO’s guardianship and possibly citizenship. So it would be another period where his birth records and identity records would likely be obscured by court ordered sealing or just plain paperwork maze activity.

Specific dates during that period:

10/20/1971 SAD and BHO Jr. leave Indonesia on Pan Am flight 812
10/21/1971 SAD and BHO Jr arrive in Hawaii from Indonesia
12/15/1971 BHO Senior visits Hawaii for a month
1/4/1972 SAD reapplies for passport indicating she will be there indefinitely. This application includes crossed out removal of Soebarkah in the application.
1/14/1972 SAD returns to Indonesia
7/1/1972 SAD comes back to Hawaii with Maya after leaving Lolo. Date is not exact

Sources:
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/83-updated-stanley-ann
http://www.fcaea.org/aid=162.phtml
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/ot/

Again, just a theory trying to fit the data point of that time.

[bitt]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/academia_shrugs_obamas_citizenship_and_the_presidency.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/the_great_american_memory_hole.html

[frog in a pot]

The way to do that (make him a plaintiff) is for the GA authorities to simply go ahead and take him off the ballot...by claiming he is ineligible...how do you like this??

Very much!

That has always seemed the preferred course beginning with the 2009 Joint Session of Congress or any of the various state actions.

Of the present choices, clearly the least complicated basis for a state to claim ineligibility is where a candidate is unable to produce credible evidence of U.S. birth. All GA (or for that matter, NH) has to do is simply request a copy of the candidate’s BC as proof of the certification of eligibility sworn to it under oath!

In response, a candidate will either produce a BC that is subject to testing and perhaps verification by HI or, in lieu of producing bogus documentation, withdraw from the state’s election process. The candidate may of course, file a lawsuit.

Denying ballot access based on a foreign father is, in my opinion, much more problematic for a state. That is because, while I believe there are strong historical arguments for the two citizen parent requirement, I also believe Minor’s remarks on that subject are susceptible of more than one interpretation.

Even if our current USSC, sharply divided along political lines, reviews Minor, I believe there is room for it to claim it is not bound by whatever the decision suggests. Minor states being a “citizen” was enough for its decision (and the syllabus makes no mention of “natural born citizen”); i.e., Minor's citizenship was not an issue before the court and the various forms of citizenship was no more relevant to its holding than the color of her hair. Arguably, it remarks regarding naturhal born citizenship was a "musing" that a subsequent court could ignore.

Tellingly, Lockwood makes no mention of natural born citizen and cites Minor for its use of the word “citizen”, and not its use of “natural born citizen”, because the latter was not relevant in Lockwood anymore than it was in Minor. I have not read all of Leo Donofrio, but when he sets out his public challenge regarding the Lockwood decision, he talks in terms of “federal citizenship” not natural born citizenship.

Perhaps the greatest thing we have to fear, IMO, is that a court may create something of a blended finding, such as “two parents, one or both of whom by their actions have indicated an intent to become U.S. citizens” (crossing the border, getting a job, qualifying or a driver's license, enrolling their children in school, etc. etc.).

[frog in a pot]

Please excuse the typos, in a hurry.

[Kenny Bunk]

..... judge in GA can and has the authority to hold the director of the HIDOH in contempt of court and order her held in jail until the subpoena is fulfilled.

Dad is correct. The GA Judge certainly has the option of issuing the order. Whom had he in mind for enforcing the order? Also one ought to bear in mind that there are many dilatory legal tactics available to the authorities in Hawaii.

[hoosiermama]

Usually when documents are carried across state lines a federal Marshall accompanies the representative from the state that was subpoenaed to appear. No reason that a Federal Marshall cannot accompany representative who refuses to bring material so they can explain to the judge why they are unable to produce.

[Kenny Bunk]

(1)Federal Marshals work for Eric Holder. (2) The Marshal can attest that the subpoena was served, and even hang around to pick up the requested evidence. For many moons.

[freepersup]

I typically would mail kudos privately via FR messaging to those deserving of special accolades or encouragement, for their scholarly work on exposing the treasonous usurper residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. ... your succinct, cogent, tireless efforts, with a decidedly unique perspective akin to the subject Hawaiian's adoptive background, deserves public praise and thanks. I (legion of one) thank you for keeping it real and for persistently digging into George Soros's illegitimate step borg-child.

;o)

freepersup

[Danae]

Thank you! I have to admit, this sort of stuff takes hours and hours to do and put together in a cogent fashion. It is the occasional thanks that I (and others ) get which keeps us going. For certain, it doesn’t pay the bills, but it MUST be done.

Thank you for the pat on the back! I really do appreciate it!

~Danae

[Danae]

“(should be interesting)”

Now that there is an understatement. T minus 13 days and counting.