Nor in Missouri, where my daughter teaches. She has a Master's and 12 years experience and has a salary of $44,000 per year.
“She has a Master’s and 12 years experience and has a salary of $44,000 per year.”
Granted that’s low compared to a lot of other places.
But divide that by the number of hours worked, then add in the cost of benefits.
And then compare it to private sector Missouri jobs.
“Nor in Missouri, where my daughter teaches. She has a Master’s and 12 years experience and has a salary of $44,000 per year.”
A Masters in what..Math, Science, or 2nd grade milk-N-cookies?
Not knocking your Daughter, but the vast majority of teaching degrees are ‘phone it in’ classes. Also the total hours in the classroom for most teachers is barely over a part time job.
That is still on the low side. In MI she would be well over 70K.
I don’t know where is Missouri she is, but where I am in Springfield, she would be doing very well.
According to 2009 statistics, the median household income in Springfield was $30,831.
If fact, at $44,000 she wouldn’t be doing too bad in all of Missouri since the State median household income was $45,229.
I find that teachers don’t like to talk about their pay when you point out what others make.
What is her benefits package, pension, etc worth?
You should see what they make in Oregon.
The guy across the street from me (when I lived there) made almost as much as me, lived in a bigger house, and gets a pension of 70k/year.
The guy was a gym teacher.
I’ve been 22 years at Intel and didn’t get the benefits he did.
This study added in benefits and compared hourly numbers.
Add in the pension and retirement health benefits, current benefits, and divide by the hours worked over their careers, and teachers are paid better than nearly any professional. Teachers would like to paid like the most successful neurosurgeons at the **peak** of their relatively **short** careers. Unlike professionals who require many more years of schooling and many more years to build their practices, teachers have the opportunity to work 30 or 40 or more years.
Also...teaching is not an academically competitive career. Low SAT scores, community college followed by a local state university with **minimally** demanding courses and no science and math courses ( or grossly diluted courses) is all that is needed. And...Sadly, too many masters degrees in education are a joke.
It is possible to qualify for a teaching position with minimal student loan debt, while in their early 20s. My local dentist, however, started his career with a quarter of million in school debt and another $400,000 to buy the practice. ( Really!) How many teachers are willing to take on **that** financial risk in this economy?
The truth is that if government schools were to close tomorrow, most teachers ( yes, “most”!) would barely be qualified to be a shift manager of the local carry out. They would struggle over fractions, decimals, and percentages.
I am sure that there are socialist school teachers who work very hard, and are very dedicated to helping the children in their socialist school's godless classroom, but the above is the truth. I am certain that some teachers are very very smart, too. I know a few myself, but since on **average** teachers have low SAT scores what does that say about the really dumb teachers who are averaging out those who are smart?
Oh....And someone is bound to get in a snit because I called government owned and run schools socialist and godless. Well?...If anyone knows of a government owned and run school that is not godless in their worldview and not a socialist and single payer entitlement, please send me a link.
How much are her bennies worth, and what does she contribute toward them?
Reason I ask is because we have a 101 year old, God bless her, retired teacher in the family. And she’s been drawing a pension and health bennies for over 30 years. My guess is that those retirement bennies have cost far more than her lifetime salary.