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To: STD

1. Nice unreadable wall of text.

2. Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories only sound reasonable if you ignore the fact that the strike on Pearl Harbor was only one piece of a larger attack plan occurring mostly in the Southwest Pacific. If you look at the whole picture they tend to fall apart. FDR does not need Pearl Harbor to get into the war, we are at war after the first bomb hits Wake, Guam, or the Philippines.


11 posted on 12/14/2011 12:26:55 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Excellent point. We tend to forget those attacks and most are totally ignorant of the unforgivable actions of MacArthur
in his defense of the Philippines. Was he part of FDR’s “conspiracy” as well?


18 posted on 12/14/2011 12:39:42 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
Um ...

Excepting a few facts:

(a) FDR tells Admiral Richardson that even if Japan attacked WAKE, GUAM, ... the Philippines (slated to begin "statehood" path in 1946), FDR doubts the US will go to war,

(b) a certain "Blue Funnel" steamer carrying the secret British Cos (Chief of Staff) mail for Singapore is captured in the Indian Ocean in August 1940 by a German surface-raider; said minutes are translated and given to the Japanese, Japan learns that British will appease (think Burma Road) and not sent warships to be based in the Far East, it is already stretching the limits of Home Fleet; thinks about US, still a neutral, escorting convoys of war materiels in the Altantic,

(c) the Japanese know the Asiatic Fleet has as its singular (yes, just one) capital ship, a crusier,

(d) the Japanese also know that FDR sent to the Atlantic, in the Spring of 1941, about 25% of the Pacific Fleet to aid in that "undeclared war" ...

So, yes, the whole picture has many aspects.

One was that the IJN had one target; it was gathered tightly in one location. In fact a location checked via the so-called Kita Messages.

38 posted on 12/14/2011 2:14:21 PM PST by jamaksin
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