“Well, if you want to have this legal conversation, it all has to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the requisite intent to come up with something that would be considered perjury or a lie. “
That is NOT what I was TAUGHT about LIES and TRUTH when I was growing up. Did he just make that up?
Isn’t he really saying, all you have to do is to never admit you lied, and that makes it ok and legal.
“Depends on what “is” is.”