[birddog]

Bigger than the barely 70 pound american GSD? Yes.. Good bone, Yes.. Stocky and blocky? Note really... They are deep chested, but not barrel chested. Very athletic and can run all day.....

The GSDs from the 40s-60s were her goal. Kinda like this boy.

http://www.gsdca.org/GSDReviewed/Ldogs/LanceFranJo.html

Look at some of his lineage....

Here is another link really showing the changes in the GSD.

http://royalair.org/pasttopresent.htm

That pic used for the GSD ping is a bitch so would be a little more petite than the males.

Here is info on Flora...

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=417697

[the OlLine Rebel]

Lance of Fran-Jo is lampooned as the reason for the decline of the breed in America. Although I think he himself was pretty nice. He was late ‘60s and that (as with everything in this world, it seems) was the starting point of the decline of the breed everywhere - America and Germany. Different manners, but still declines.

Yes, my picture of Flora Berkemeyer, who is a bitch - the most influential ever “the beauty of the breed”. She was whelped in 1911 so is ORIGINAL-STYLE. They were slight - not because she was a female, but ALL GS were slight in the beginning.

GS have NEVER been the size of small Bullmastiffs or more; they should be lithe but muscular and never gigantic. They have always been averaging 70-80 lbs for any given animal.

[Salamander]

What a depressing page.

Nobody's made one for Dobermanns but here's a small example of "change"

1940s [the great Dictator Von Glenhugel]

And a modern Dobe "Americanized" champion

And my dog's GG-grandfather, the immortal "game changer"/korang for life, Hertog Alpha Le Dobry [European]

and then there's The Boy

Alpha came from the same tight bloodlines as Dictator and it shows.

This diagram comes from the breeder/judge education page of the DPCA:

Judging by the second dog [no pun intended] nobody ever looks at that diagram.