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To: Scoutmaster

Actually, any way you count it up SC has ripped the SEC.

Now if I may, let me get back to my original point, which is not that one conference is better than another. One could find all kinds of data to bolster any claim either way. For example, the Pac 12 has two of the only three schools have have never scheduled teams not in Div 1A (or whatever they’re calling it today). Or one could look at home and away scheduling for non conference, where the SEC loads up on home cookin’.

The point is that while there can be no arguing that the SEC has many fine teams, that’s not the same as the mythology that has arisen. The SEC is not the be all end end all of football. That was on display last night. LSU had 237 yards of total offense and was was 5 of 13 passing for 30 yards! That was not “SEC speed” on defense, that was “SEC ineptitude” on offense.

Now, another poster has written that “only Alabama can stop LSU” in the BCS title game. I know, I know who am I supposed to believe, SEC honks or my lying eyes?


98 posted on 12/04/2011 11:21:24 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Now if I may, let me get back to my original point, which is not that one conference is better than another. One could find all kinds of data to bolster any claim either way.

Yes. Your original point was that it was a myth that the SEC was a superior conference. Only when I (as somebody from outside the SEC) called you on that did you respond by trying to change the subject from conferences to a single team, USC.

If we're talking about the last twenty-five years, I won't claim my Ivy League is a top conference. I won't claim my Big 12 is a contender for the top conference. I will say that I consider the Pac 12 the second-best conference over the past twenty-five years (and there's a clear gap before you get to the Big 10 and Big 12, etc.), but that the SEC has a strong top two-thirds, while the Pac 12 has a strong top third.

You may point to the Pac 12 not scheduling non-Div I schools. Commendable. It hasn't help them, or home and away scheduling. I think that's a step above saying that the Pac 12's the best conference because it has the nicest uniforms.

The SEC is 7-0 in BCS title games. It will become 8-1 this year, with its only loss . . . to an SEC team. The Pac 12 is 0-2. The Pac 12 win that was vacated, USC didn't have to play undefeated SEC team Auburn (USC had beaten Auburn in the regular season in other years, but not Auburn's best team in 2004, in the National Championship - and not without ineligible player Reggie Bush). Five different SEC teams have won the BCS National Championship.

Ten SEC teams played in bowl games last year (they went only 5-5, but it means the #8, 9, and 10 SEC teams were playing, what?, the #3, 4, and 5 teams from some conference?). The Peach Bowl contract requires the #5 SEC team to play the #2 ACC team yearly . . . unless the SEC has two BCS teams (which happens annually), in which case the Peach Bowl is always #2 ACC vs. #6 SEC. That's the way the other bowls are set up. The SEC is always playing up against higher ranked-in-conference opponents.

I'll just leave the final words to ESPN today, people who get paid to analyze college football and who apparently are good enough at it that they keep their jobs and we read them:

"[F]or the first time in modern history, two teams from the same league will play for the national championship.

"And not just any league, but the SEC, the one that has the evidence to show it's the best league in college football but lacks the discretion not to brag about it."

I won't try to change your opinion. You're "SoCal" Pubbie. You have a dog in this fight. I don't.

103 posted on 12/05/2011 5:54:03 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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