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To: fso301

Your selectively pulling information from that post and it is unclear that all that was fired at that bear killed it. In fact this states that a multiple number of calibers did not stop it. I bet it was a .454, high powered rifle or shotgun that finished this beast off. Here is the full quote for the record:

““Fish and Game dispatched a problem bear and cleaned a grizzly in Anchorage that had a multitude of 9mm under his pelt.”

I’ve read where Fish and Game have captured and killed a bear after it had mauled or killed a hunter or hiker. They do find multiple small caliber rounds (.38 – 9mm – .40cal ) in the animal that did nothing to STOP it.

They key word when dealing with dangerous game is to STOP the animal. A charging bear when angry, is almost impossible to stop. Think about it. You’re not at the range here. You’re adrenaline is high, the bear is moving up-down, side to side and coming at you very quickly. The odds of scoring a head shot in a MAN is very low during combat, let along trying to hit a bear. You may hit him in the peripherals or even in center mass, but each trigger pull that does not put him down, he gains yards on you! You cannot stop him if he’s on you! There he will rip your head off.

You need firepower that will penetrate and disperse energy into the animal, over and over when necessary if you miss its head initially. Primates when shot many times can still kill before they drop dead. The bear in this story was old and underweight but still determined and hungry. The bear took the hits yet fell past the shooter, which means he made it to the shooter! Perhaps a younger and healthier bear would have been more formidable for the Casull and the outcome grim. Remember, the shooter had no time to bring the weapon to his eye and had to shoot shot from the hip!!

The .454 Casull was developed for this reason. It has a rifle primer propelling a large caliber bullet in a small package.”


133 posted on 12/02/2011 12:13:14 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DarthVader
Your selectively pulling information from that post

True but that was because it appeared multiple separate instances were being discussed and I didn't want to get into each instance.

I've been around FR for many years I've read stories where a charging grizzly was shot point blank with a 30-06 and still mauled the shooter. I can't say I've read an article where a person was mauled after unsuccessfully defending themselves with a sub-magnum caliber handgun but I have read where people successfully defended themselves against bear attack with a cast iron frying pan.

Canadian man kills attacking bear with frying pan http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1147711/posts

Cop Killed Charging Bear With One Shot, 7 Feet Away (Service revolver): http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2795652/posts

Hiker deters Charging Grizzly with Bear Spray: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2794740/posts

Bear runs away after Alaska woman punches it in nose http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2772631/posts

On the other hand:

Man shoots charging grizzly at 10 feet with 30-06 and is still mauled. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2783348/posts

138 posted on 12/02/2011 12:53:26 PM PST by fso301
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