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You clearly don’t get what I meant by “expect”. It had nothing to do with you. It wasn’t an active term describing you. Read it a little more carefully.

In a sinless world I’d agree people would have perfect control. Jesus would also not have had to die for us either. I’d have rather nobody ever sinned and we all could live perfectly. But that isn’t the world we’re in.

I’d prefer people not to have sex outside of marriage as well. But there are differences in consequences to bad actions. When people are irresponsible it’s hard to feel bad for them. If you are going to have sex and don’t want kids, there are things you can do to be responsible and take precautions to prevent pregnancy.

To say this guy deserved this is just wrong.

What about the woman exercising self-control? You don’t even mention her. She’s a freaking wack nutjob for what she did. Where’s your equal or greater condemnation for what she did?

And to simplify things saying the end result in both cases is rdiculous and myopic because by stating that you’re saying the “how it happened” is meaningless, and you could not be more wrong. One person hasn’t pre-meditated to deliberately circumvent protective measures clearly against the will of the other person.

The guy never had a chance because he was not dealing with the woman honestly. If she had come out and said “I know you don’t want kids but I’m going to take the condoms and take them to a sperm lab so I can impregnate myself”, do you really think the guy would have still had sex with her and let her take the condoms? I know all the guys I know would have said “no sex”. When one party deliberately misleads the other party, it’s called fraud. She mislead him into believing she was okay with him using protection ,maybe even lied and said she wanted him to.

I agree it’d be better to wait until marriage but this was a setup. She is a far, far worse person than this guy was. They are both equally to blame for the sex, but she is a much worse person for doing the additional things she did and should not profit one dime for her conniving scheming.

Suggesting that I was NOT a reasonable person had everything to do with me. I never said he should expect her to act in this way, I said he should not have an intimate relationship with someone he did not have a committed, trust-based relationship with.

You insist that our only options when discussing this situation is on laying blame on him or her. There is another option - do not put yourself in this situation. Blame them both.

I refuse to believe we are mindless animals with no ability to control our instincts. You can blame her if you want, but I see a problem when a man initiates a relationship with a stripper for casual sex.

All equality talk aside, the reality is that men still initiate relationships the vast majority of the time in our society. Or, are you contending that she was the one driving the relationship?